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Last reply Jun 27, 2008 · posted in The Sports Section

The 2008 NBA Draft- Where preparing for the future happens

First,

it's pretty sad that arguably the greatest NBA season of my lifetime is finally over.

The revitalized Lakers and Celtics, the rise of the Hornets, a bright light in Atlanta, an All-Star Game/dunk contest that wer actually watchable and no Spurs/Pistons in the Finals.

Anyway,

now that the NBA title is all green,

let's talk about the NBA Draft.

This year's draft may not be as stacked as last year's- Oden, Durant, and all those Gators- but it's still pretty damn impressive, with these names:

Rose, Beasley, Mayo, the Lopez twins, Love, Douglas-Roberts, Augustine, etc.

I'd like to get your thoughts on this year's draft.

Also, tell me what type of player/need your favorite team needs to improve/rebuild/get better.

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HD MM

Jun 27, 2008

Wow, no love for the Europeans.....

Don't forget some of these prospects are the types of players that have beaten team USA the last few sessions of international basketball. A lot of them spew fundamentals! Sure there are Euro busts, but there are American busts too. You can't generalize all of foreigner NBA'ers as "stiffs".

Check this list of notable foreign NBA ballers. Most of whom are Euro's.....

Dirk Nowiski
Peja Stoyakovickh
Vlade Divac
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Pau Gasol
Toni Kukoc
Rik Smits
Detlef Schrempf
Steve Nash
Arvydas Sabonis
Drazen Petrovic
Dikembe Mutumbo
Yao Ming
Vlade Divac
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Tim Duncan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Andrei Kirilenko

salsadancer7

Jun 27, 2008

HD MM said:
Wow, no love for the Europeans.....

Don't forget some of these prospects are the types of players that have beaten team USA the last few sessions of international basketball. A lot of them spew fundamentals! Sure there are Euro busts, but there are American busts too. You can't generalize all of foreigner NBA'ers as "stiffs".

Check this list of notable foreign NBA ballers. Most of whom are Euro's.....

Dirk Nowiski
Peja Stoyakovickh
Vlade Divac
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Pau Gasol
Toni Kukoc
Rik Smits
Detlef Schrempf
Steve Nash
Arvydas Sabonis
Drazen Petrovic
Dikembe Mutumbo
Yao Ming
Vlade Divac
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Tim Duncan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Andrei Kirilenko

And if you go through that list, the one that DOD play defense...NEVER played in the Euros.

And these guys....are not Euros

Tim Duncan(not a Euro)
Hakeem(not a Euro)
Steve Nash(not a Euro)
Manu(not a Euro)

HD MM

Jun 27, 2008

salsadancer7 said:
And if you go through that list, the one that DOD play defense...NEVER played in the Euros.

And these guys....

Tim Duncan(not a Euro)
Hakeem(not a Euro)
Steve Nash(not a Euro)
Manu(not a Euro)

Fine. My point was those players were far from "stiffs" though like Sabres suggested.

Give the poor Italian a chance in NYC. Don't write him off before he's even played a single professional game.

salsadancer7

Jun 27, 2008

HD MM said:
Fine. My point was those players were far from "stiffs" though like Sabres suggested.

Give the poor Italian a chance in NYC. Don't write him off before he's even played a single professional game.

Not writing off....but this a Miami Dolphins version of the drafting of Teddy Ginn at #9 in the NFL draft....."I know the Ginn family....."

HD MM

Jun 27, 2008

salsadancer7 said:
Not writing off....but this a Miami Dolphins version of the drafting of Teddy Ginn at #9 in the NFL draft....."I know the Ginn family....."

What?! Not really.....

Ginn was NOT projected as a #9 overall player in that draft. He was chosen WAY before everyone thought. Most had him a late first, if not a second round talent.

The Italian was considered a top 10 pick by every major basketball outlet. That is where he was picked. He was not a stretch by any sense of the imagination. Again, since no one has actually seen the kid play, let him prove his worth before we crucify him already.

BillD1984

Jun 27, 2008

HD MM said:
Give the poor Italian a chance in NYC. Don't write him off before he's even played a single professional game.

As much as I respect Sabres opinions, I totally agree with this. You have to give the kid a chance. I realize that Knicks management have next to zero credibility, but like I said last night..........maybe they did their homework on this kid.

SabresRule

Jun 27, 2008

BillD1984 said:
As much as I respect Sabres opinions, I totally agree with this. You have to give the kid a chance. I realize that Knicks management have next to zero credibility, but like I said last night..........maybe they did their homework on this kid.

I'm giving him a timetable.

I'll be paying special attention to his rookie season so I can judge how he'll pan out.

If he's good, I'll say I was sorry.

If not, expect a lot of second-guessing...

BillD1984

Jun 27, 2008

SabresRule said:
I'm giving him a timetable.

I'll be paying special attention to his rookie season so I can judge how he'll pan out.

If he's good, I'll say I was sorry.

If not, expect a lot of second-guessing...

Fair enough.

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AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

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EarDemon

Wednesday at 6:31 PM

JSheridan said:
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

I did a 2500 mile round trip road trip a few weeks ago, there were a handful of places where Verizon had service and I had nothing on FirstNet. Most notably in the backwoods of Kentucky and Tennessee. Those same places I had no service on T-Mobile either. In populated areas, like the Lexington metro and Knoxville metro AT&T not only had great coverage, better than Verizon and T-Mobile generally, they have n77 everywhere. I hit 1.2 Gbps or higher pretty much everywhere, beating out the other two. That is the exact opposite here back in Western NY. Very little n77 on AT&T here and T-Mobile always rockets to 1.5 Gbps or higher.

As far as I know, there is no AT&T tower in my town. The tower I connect to when I'm outside, no service indoors, is one about 4.5 miles north of me in a different town, I can barley latch on to band 12, not 14. It's LTE only but when near that tower I exceed 200 Mbps which is phenomenal for low band LTE, but T-Mobile and Verizon have mid band on the same tower, and i'm well over a gig.

I'm looking forward to the n14 conversion and deployment of n79/4.9 GHz. Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

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JSheridan

Yesterday at 3:06 PM

EarDemon said:
... Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 5:42 PM

JSheridan said:
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke. AT&T has 3 Internet tier 1 backbones. AT&T Global Network Services formerly IBM Global Network Services (prserv.net) and AT&T Emerging Network Services, formerly (CERFNet (California Educational and Research Foundation Network) that was part of NSFNet (National Science Foundation Network). AT&T WorldNet has always been a inferior and not the same quality as the other two which are highly respected.

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 7:58 PM

Almighty1 said:
The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke

JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

I know, that still will use AT&T's 1996 created backbone better known as AS 7018 which is the lower end. The other two are higher end under AS2685 & AS2686 & AS1740 & AS1838.

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Juan

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comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

Which connects to a backbone network

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Juan said:
Which connects to a backbone network

Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink

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