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Last reply Aug 22, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DishHD Absolute Question

I am getting conflicting answers on what this package includes. My question is if I add an additional SD 2 tuner receiver to this package, what will I be able to tune in and view on this box?

Does this package include the mirror SD channel of the HD channels when available?

Would it include local channels in SD if the locals are added?

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johnpas73

Jul 13, 2008

Hey guys
Thinking about switching to DishHD absolute, but not sure if I should do this before Aug 1 new packages, or after.
I currently have a 622 and a 625 receiver. So Im assuming i need to Dish it up or buy a 622/722 to replace my 625.
Next, my DMA does not have HD LiL, but if I pay the 5 bucks for local channels, will I still get the SD channels over the dish and see my HD locals OTA in the guide?

Thanks
John

ncted

Jul 14, 2008

johnpas73 said:
Hey guys
Thinking about switching to DishHD absolute, but not sure if I should do this before Aug 1 new packages, or after.
I currently have a 622 and a 625 receiver. So Im assuming i need to Dish it up or buy a 622/722 to replace my 625.
Next, my DMA does not have HD LiL, but if I pay the 5 bucks for local channels, will I still get the SD channels over the dish and see my HD locals OTA in the guide?

Thanks
John

I get my 622 to replace my 625 tomorrow. I am glad I am signing up before 8/1. As long as they continue to add new HD channels to this package as they come out, I can live without my RSN.

Ted

grb

Jul 14, 2008

ncted said:
I am glad I am signing up before 8/1. As long as they continue to add new HD channels to this package as they come out, I can live without my RSN.

Ted

Me, too!

The HD package is a bargain @ $29.99 even though I have to sacrifice my RSN's. So far it hasn't been a problem -- Kings (L.A.) didn't get in the NHL playoffs and I hate the Ducks (who did get in). And now it's baseball season and I can see the Dodgers lose enough on the local broadcasts without seeing them lose on the RSN. I could care less about the Angels...
However, when the HD package disappears (probably 2/1/09), I will likely take the RSN's if both SD and HD are included (too many games still in SD). That will mean an increase of 67% to $49.99, but it would increase anyway by 33% to $39.99 just to keep the channels I already had...no longer a great bargain, but still a pretty good deal!

TalonDancer

Jul 14, 2008

grb said:
....However, when the HD package disappears (probably 2/1/09), I will likely take the RSN's if both SD and HD are included (too many games still in SD). That will mean an increase of 67% to $49.99, but it would increase anyway by 33% to $39.99 just to keep the channels I already had...no longer a great bargain, but still a pretty good deal!

Hmmm..

If I read the press release correctly the equivalent* of the current dishHD Absolute package will cost $49.99 because you have to sub TurboHD Gold to get most of the HD channels and add "TurboHD Platinum" to get the ones without corresponding SD channels.
....
TurboHD Gold: $39.99/month or $44.99/month with locals channels*

TurboHD Platinum: $10/month – add TurboHD Platinum to any qualifying package and receive HD channels that do not have corresponding SD channels.....

Talon Dancer

* Yes I know that Dish has already announced 5 new HD channels that are not in the current dishHD Absolute package. The other twelve are available to anyone with any HD package who subs the appropriate premium packages.

grb

Jul 14, 2008

TalonDancer said:
Hmmm..

If I read the press release correctly the equivalent* of the current dishHD Absolute package will cost $49.99 because you have to sub TurboHD Gold to get most of the HD channels and add "TurboHD Platinum" to get the ones without corresponding SD channels.
....
TurboHD Gold: $39.99/month or $44.99/month with locals channels*

TurboHD Platinum: $10/month – add TurboHD Platinum to any qualifying package and receive HD channels that do not have corresponding SD channels.....

Talon Dancer

* Yes I know that Dish has already announced 5 new HD channels that are not in the current dishHD Absolute package. The other twelve are available to anyone with any HD package who subs the appropriate premium packages.

From what I hear, the RSN's come with the Turbo Gold package @ $39.99 and the Turbo Platinum is $10.00 for a total of $49.99. If that is true, the increase will be 67% but will now include RSN's.

The press release was unclear in that it said RSN's were included in the Turbo Gold Dish DVR Advantage package, but were not shown as an inclusion in the regular Gold Turbo package. Another document I got on the press release thread indicates RSN's are included.

"From the slide on the retail chat (click), it looks like as long as you sub to Turbo Silver or Turbo Gold, you can get your RSNs (however they are not in the bronze tier). It doesn't say anything on the slide about needing to sub to DVR advantage to get the RSNs."

From:
07-11-2008, 04:35 PM
dmendenjr
Pub Member / Supporter

(The (click) shown above brings up the slide indicated in the press release thread.

TalonDancer

Jul 14, 2008

grb said:
From what I hear, the RSN's come with the Turbo Gold package @ $39.99 and the Turbo Platinum is $10.00 for a total of $49.99. If that is true, the increase will be 67% but will now include RSN's....

Dang! I hate subsidizing sports voyeurs

In fact this is one of the most attractive things about the current dishHD Absolute package -- low price, with (perhaps due to) NO RSNs.

Talon Dancer

grb

Jul 15, 2008

TalonDancer said:
Dang! I hate subsidizing sports voyeurs In fact this is one of the most attractive things about the current dishHD Absolute package -- low price, with (perhaps due to) NO RSNs.

Talon Dancer

Yeah, they could have just offered RSN's as a $10 ad-on, but then they wouldn't have gotten their $10 from you and others that don't want RSN's.

When it comes to money, Charlie usually makes the best decision...for Charlie!

TalonDancer

Jul 15, 2008

grb said:
Yeah, they could have just offered RSN's as a $10 ad-on, but then they wouldn't have gotten their $10 from you and others that don't want RSN's.

When it comes to money, Charlie usually makes the best decision...for Charlie!

Well, Charlie is unlikely to ever get any money from me for RSNs, even if he lumps them in with channels I might like to see. I dislike subsidizing sports channels so much, that when the time comes, I'll probably opt for the highest level HD package WITHOUT RSNs

Even then, if Charlie thinks I'll be paying more than $50/mo for a bunch of pseudo HD TV channels, he has another think coming. I'd drop Dish (and any other paid TV "service") in a New York second if I could get locals OTA without a 200' high mast.

Talon Dancer

s15274n

Jul 16, 2008

can you explain the grandfathering in? I want my father-in-law to get my package, All HD + locals for $40 with taxes.... I know so little about the new changes coming up though. If you sign up now, does that mean Dish is not going to charge the rates of their new plan in 2 months (bill cycle)?

ncted

Jul 16, 2008

s15274n said:
can you explain the grandfathering in? I want my father-in-law to get my package, All HD + locals for $40 with taxes.... I know so little about the new changes coming up though. If you sign up now, does that mean Dish is not going to charge the rates of their new plan in 2 months (bill cycle)?

If you sign up for DISH HD Absolute before 8/1, you get the $29.99 plan price until February 2009. On 8/1 and after, you have to sign up for one of the TurboHD packages which have potentially higher pricing. Hope that clears it up some.

Ted

JimMcC

Jul 16, 2008

But what happens in Feb. 2009 to the HD Absolute price/package?

ncted

Jul 16, 2008

JimMcC said:
But what happens in Feb. 2009 to the HD Absolute price/package?

I think the expectation is that we will get one of the TurboHD packages.

Ted

grb

Jul 16, 2008

TalonDancer said:
Well, Charlie is unlikely to ever get any money from me for RSNs, even if he lumps them in with channels I might like to see. I dislike subsidizing sports channels so much, that when the time comes, I'll probably opt for the highest level HD package WITHOUT RSNs

Even then, if Charlie thinks I'll be paying more than $50/mo for a bunch of pseudo HD TV channels, he has another think coming. I'd drop Dish (and any other paid TV "service") in a New York second if I could get locals OTA without a 200' high mast.

Talon Dancer

I get close to 50 locals and the HD channels have excellent PQ. But, I am a sports fan and I need ESPN (1 & 2), Versus and the NHL channel. HD Net is pretty cool, too and they have NHL games on Thursday and Saturday. I could live without the tennis channel and the golf channel if I really had to.

I did compromise by losing my RSN's when I decided to get the HD Absolute package and I am glad I did!

However, I am not ready to give up the other channels (above) cold turkey...

Imsalty

Aug 22, 2008

Hello people, they no longer have the Dish Absolute package available for subscription.
Can't even find it using the search engine at Dishnetwork.com. I guess I was the last one in the door. I got a 722 receiver and am watching it on two standard def TVs. there is a button on the remote that allows you to "stretch" the HD picture so there are no black bars...

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Last reply 10 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo

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Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

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Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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Howard Simmons

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Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Oct 16, 2026

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...

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KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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harshness

Today at 10:29 AM

dishstaller said:
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.

The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.

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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Yesterday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

Yesterday at 6:11 PM

Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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slow_poke_pete

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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:43 AM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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