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I posted this in "The Chit-Chat Club," but since I get more responses in this section, I'll repost it.

Also, I know this is likely something in the 'Video Games' secti
n, but few responded to my thread there.

Hopefully, I can get some responses.


Anyway,

last night, I wrote an article for RetroJunk on EA Spors hockey games.

Since it'll be a while before it gets approved, I'd like you guys to check it out.

No link- these are my actual words, thoughts, memories, stories and pictures.

Enjoy:


Sega Genesis Hockey Games

As a young kid with a Sega Genesis, I was fortunate to inherit the system with some of the best sports-themed video games of all-time.

The baseball games were good, but not great.

The football games were exceptional.

The basketball games were decent, but there were more bad games than good ones.

There were also the other game/system franchises I like- The Triple Play franchise for the PlayStation and the EA Sports NHL PlayStation series were solid.

Then... there was the the EA Sports NHL series for the Sega Genesis.

Simply outstanding.

I was a huge hockey fan (Sabres fan my whole life, BTW.), so these games were really something.

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NHL Hockey for the Genesis was the first of this seven-game series (how fitting) of games.

It was a very innovative game- a north-south angle (you don't have to move from side-to-side to get to the goal, which was used for all the games), great passing and speed, and it had real teams and real players (However, you had to identify them by number and position, for names weren't available at the time).

At the time, there were roughly only 22 teams in the NHL (San Jose was an expansion team- no Senators, no Wild, and the Avalanche were still in Quebec)

It was so fun, yet so simple- moving up-and-down, crisp movements of the player, updates of other games when you were in the playoffs, and a zamboni between periods!

Oh, and let's not forget the fights- you can change the rules so that no matter how many fights your team gets in, you never have to go to the penalty box.

Also, here's a neat trick: if you're baited into a fight and penalties are on, don't do anything. Let him veat you up- this can get him thrown into the penalty box and you don't- this results in a five-minute power play!

But, that was only the start...

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Next came NHLPA Hockey 93.

(Here's a little back story: This game was released on New Year's Eve 1992- that same night, I went to a Sabres game in Buffalo- I lived there until my family moved to Wisconsin in 1994- where Buffalo scored 12 goals and one of my heroes- Alexander Mogilny- scored a hat trick. After the game, my dad drove straight from the Aud to a video game store so I could buy NHLPA 93. Talk about ringing in a happy new year!)

This game had a couple of flaws- the players were not as fast as the previous game, the goalies weren't exaclty world-class, and fights weren't as easy. In the old game, it was easy to dodge your opponents, but in this game- not so much.

Nonetheless, it has actual player names (though no team names, just citites) and scoring goals is pretty easy,

For instance, consider this game I played:

Sabres vs. Islanders in Long Island.

Buffalo wins 22-1.

Mogilny has 8 goals and 15 points.

Patty Lafontaine had 4 goals and 11 points.

Dale Hawerchuk had a hat trick and 6 assists.

On another occasion, Mogilny had 6 goals in the first period alone.

If you can figure out how to move the puck and skaters and engage in high-scoring games, you'll master this game in no time.

This was a great sequel, but the next one that was to follow was, quite simply, beyond unbelievable.

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NHL 94

Quite simply the greatest video game I have ever played- and don't just tell me- many hockey fans love this game.

(Have you seen Swingers? Something about making heads bleed...)

Fittingly, this game was first released on my birthday- March 15, 1993. Talk about getting the perfect gift!
(Actually, the perfect birthday gift for a younger me would have been Angela Watson holding a cake and singing "Happy Birthday" in a hot red dress, but that's another story for another day...)

Anyway, this game was superior to the sequel in many a way.

The players were a lot faster, passing and skating were all superb, and goalies were much better. Oh, and it had a one-timer, which made it easier to shoot from long-range.


Also, I have to be honest- people talk about Roenick, but Alexander Mogilny in NHL 94 was the greatest sports video game character of all-time.

I always had high-scorers- if he got a hat trick, that was a bad night. I usually averaged six goals a night with him.


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Alexander Mogilny- Hockey God



However, there's no fighting- nothing is perfect, after all. Still, you can hit all you want, and that can prove very beneficiary. The harder, the better!

Combine all this, and you have a damn-near flawless hockey game!

However, as is the case more often than not, once you hit a glass ceiling, you can only go downward.

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NHL 95 was the equivalent of having to follow up something awesome- it was flawed, it wasn't horrific, it was playable, but it wasn't its precedecessor.

There were some new features- you could play an entire season, and you could trade players or create new ones. Also, you could fake a shot, use drop passes, and even block shots.

However, this game did have some flaws- the skating was not as crisp as in previous games, and the goalies were much harder to score on, whereas previous games were usually a high-scoring, outscore-the-other-team shootout.

(True story: I once outshot an opposing team 52-15, but only won 2-1 and needed overtime to do so!)

Obviously, not as good as the prior game, but still playable. BTW, this game is personally not recommended for impatient or cocky players who like to run up the score and put up double-digit goal numbers. Checking and patience will win on this version of the series.

A year later, there would be vast improvements made to correct these flaws.


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NHL 96 was able to improve previous flaws.

The skating returned to the crisp and dynamic variety of old, fighting returned after a two-game absence, and goalies were more beatable- better than the last game, but not the sieves of old.

Another interesting addition: There were now major penalties (4 minutes instead of the usual 2) and the double minor penalties.

(One irony- this game included the old Quebec Nordiques, though by the time the game was released, they had already moved to Colorado)

I can't go into great detail about this game, but it was an improvement over the previous game.


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NHL 97 (released on Halloween- nice trick-or-treat gift, huh?) was able to improve slightly from the last game- this is also a highly playable game, but only on the Sega Genesis. The Playstation and Saturn versions aren't too good.

It basically plays the same as NHL 96, but with one big addition: International teams, such as USA, Canada, Russia, and 2 European All-Star teams.

Also, there was a Skills Competition, where newbies could learn certain skills that are necessary to master this game. These include the hardest shot, goalie breakaway practices, and accuracy shooting (those targets aren't easy to hit, BTW).

This was good- it improved, made some nice additions and kept the same formula as the last game.


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NHL 98 was the final EA Sports hockey game on the Sega Genesis system.

The series goes out with a nice bang- keeps the same formula of crisp and smooth passing, skating, and shooting, goalies that range from stonewalls to sieves, and the additions of the previous year.

One final addition: this time, the International teams include all the major countries that can be classified as international hockey powers/contenders.

Overall, a good game to wrap up the series of outstanding games, with a few tweaks to nicely conclude the great series.


Conclusion:

It's only fitting that this Sega game series from 1991-1998 lasted as long as my favorite show, "Step By Step."

They were key roles in my younger years, with enjoyment, admiration and something to dream about (Karen at night, winning the electronic version of Lord Stanley's Cup by day.)

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(Ah, the impossible dreams of my younger days...)

All in all, these were games that were more good than bad. Whatever flaws there were, other games picked up the slack and improved on them.

Great games, great series- They were truly "In the Game."

Here's to you, EA Sports!



OK, guys.

Be honest.

What do you think of my article?
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SatinKzo
Laff, I like it. I too played alot of hockey games on the Genesis (the only system I really ever played the hell out of).

One thing I think you hinted at, but I am not sure, is that none of these games every addressed the "crossing the goalie scoring bug" where if you skated up to the dots in the offensive zone, then cut straight across to the other dot so that the player you were controlling was shooting a backhand, it was almost a sure goal every time if you got a clean shot on the goalie.

This bug in every version resulted in insane scoring if both players knew the trick. I fondly remember many games where both teams scored 30+ goals.

Also, while I loved each of these games, I still rank Blades of Steel as my all time arcade hockey game (not simulation style like EA sports are). Much the same way with Tecmo Bowl.

*note the bug also existed into the later post-genesis versions on the playstation.
M
I agree that NHL 94 for the Genesis was without a doubt one of the best (and funnest) hockey games ever made.
ehren
my brother and I used to beat each other up just like in the movie Swingers, threw the controller at the console and it got so bad the organ that would play before the puck would drop was in slow motion and then it came back to normal after the puck dropped. Ahhhh those were the days. I even remember a penalty being called and a player comes flying by the scoreboard and the game just froze. Ahhhh once again those were the days.

Flyers 87 Ottawa 2 with Lindros scoring 43 goals. That was my record.
ehren
Laff, I like it. I too played alot of hockey games on the Genesis (the only system I really ever played the hell out of).

One thing I think you hinted at, but I am not sure, is that none of these games every addressed the "crossing the goalie scoring bug" where if you skated up to the dots in the offensive zone, then cut straight across to the other dot so that the player you were controlling was shooting a backhand, it was almost a sure goal every time if you got a clean shot on the goalie.

This bug in every version resulted in insane scoring if both players knew the trick. I fondly remember many games where both teams scored 30+ goals.

Also, while I loved each of these games, I still rank Blades of Steel as my all time arcade hockey game (not simulation style like EA sports are). Much the same way with Tecmo Bowl.

*note the bug also existed into the later post-genesis versions on the playstation.

30 goals that's it????? LOL
ehren
Which year was the really slow one where if you checked the guy into the boards it totally sounds like he hit you with a garbage can, it was the most hilarious thing ever I pissed my pants in laughter.
SatinKzo
30 goals that's it????? LOL

Well, when both players knew the trick to scoring, it was easy to run interference and check off the puck cause we each knew where eacth other was headed.

Playing vs the CPU, most games were just like what you mentioned, 87-2 etc.
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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JSheridan
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.
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AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.
I did a 2500 mile round trip road trip a few weeks ago, there were a handful of places where Verizon had service and I had nothing on FirstNet. Most notably in the backwoods of Kentucky and Tennessee. Those same places I had no service on T-Mobile either. In populated areas, like the Lexington metro and Knoxville metro AT&T not only had great coverage, better than Verizon and T-Mobile generally, they have n77 everywhere. I hit 1.2 Gbps or higher pretty much everywhere, beating out the other two. That is the exact opposite here back in Western NY. Very little n77 on AT&T here and T-Mobile always rockets to 1.5 Gbps or higher.

As far as I know, there is no AT&T tower in my town. The tower I connect to when I'm outside, no service indoors, is one about 4.5 miles north of me in a different town, I can barley latch on to band 12, not 14. It's LTE only but when near that tower I exceed 200 Mbps which is phenomenal for low band LTE, but T-Mobile and Verizon have mid band on the same tower, and i'm well over a gig.

I'm looking forward to the n14 conversion and deployment of n79/4.9 GHz. Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.
JSheridan
... Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.
Almighty1
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.
The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke. AT&T has 3 Internet tier 1 backbones. AT&T Global Network Services formerly IBM Global Network Services (prserv.net) and AT&T Emerging Network Services, formerly (CERFNet (California Educational and Research Foundation Network) that was part of NSFNet (National Science Foundation Network). AT&T WorldNet has always been a inferior and not the same quality as the other two which are highly respected.
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The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke

JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.
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Almighty1
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.
I know, that still will use AT&T's 1996 created backbone better known as AS 7018 which is the lower end. The other two are higher end under AS2685 & AS2686 & AS1740 & AS1838.
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Juan
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.
Which connects to a backbone network
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Which connects to a backbone network

Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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Wild Horse Nine was fantastic.
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Wild Horse Nine was fantastic.
Might have to check that out. Google describes it as a "dark comedy thriller".
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Last night...

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Veterans Day and business closed, so movie day and some tv on the patio. Watched several Chewed Up episodes on YouTube out on the patio until lunch time then came inside for the surround and movies.

Raise The Titanic (1980). Great musical score by John Barry of James Bond music fame.


View: https://youtu.be/KqWnM2xZ0gw?is=STWbRqNWrSZ1-z6-


Glenn Miller Story (1954). Great music


View: https://youtu.be/sMa-T71Az68?is=4YG3SQfWBjOG5305
Foxbat
After "VisionQuest" was over, I watched "Avengers: Infinity War" last night and "Avengers: Endgame" tonight.
osu1991
Xmas movies today. 😁. Die Hard and Die Hard 2
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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dishstaller
IF they had made the cyber truck more like a conventional truck, more would have bought it. There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility. The Cybertruck approach to that goal was way out in left field. It turned out to be more of an austere sedan with awful daily-driver attributes (visibility, parking). The expectations regarding truck durability were dashed early on.
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EV owners could face a new $130 annual federal fee as soon as December.

  • Congress is considering a new annual fee for electric vehicle owners to help fund road maintenance.
  • The proposed fee would start at $130 for EVs and $35 for plug-in hybrids, potentially increasing over time.
  • This fee aims to have EV drivers contribute to the Highway Trust Fund, which is primarily funded by gasoline taxes.
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The truck is today's cadillac or buick
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Never attempt to buy shrimp at a lumbago stand.
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