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ka1z0ku

Last reply Aug 20, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Proof that MPEG-4 saves bandwidth/storage space?

My 722 is picking up USA HD from 61.5, which should be the new MPEG-4 stream.

I recorded approximately 8 hours and 15 minutes of Olympics coverage overnight, about 2 nights ago (handball, weightlifting, boxing, etc...). Before recording, my remaining HD space was at approx. 26hrs 30mins (cannot remember exact number). After the recording? 25hrs 6mins.

I knew that MPEG-4 was more efficient than MPEG-2, but that's an almost 8:1 ratio. Can anyone confirm similar experiences?

If this turns out to be more than a fluke, then the MPEG-4 switch (when all HDs and SDs are MPEG-4 streams) would turn 50 hours of estimated space into 350-400 hours, provided the ratio holds up. But even if it leads to just a doubling or quadrupling of space, that's an enormous gain for free. :up

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Rey

Aug 19, 2008

i thought usa was already mpeg4 on 110?

webbydude

Aug 19, 2008

REY_1178 said:
i thought usa was already mpeg4 on 110?

I'm also getting USA HD on 61.5 (hit the INFO button to see what bird you're receiving the channel from)

Rey

Aug 19, 2008

webbydude said:
I'm also getting USA HD on 61.5 (hit the INFO button to see what bird you're receiving the channel from)

110. am i missing an update or something or will it change to 61.5 on it's own?

technoguy

Aug 19, 2008

REY_1178 said:
110. am i missing an update or something or will it change to 61.5 on it's own?

It is getting USA HD thru 61.5 by default,If you want to get it from 110 you need to disconnect 61.5 and run a check switch, But is no worth the hassle and makes no difference in pq or else.

Rey

Aug 19, 2008

technoguy said:
It is getting USA HD thru 61.5 by default,If you want to get it from 110 you need to disconnect 61.5 and run a check switch, But is no worth the hassle and makes no difference in pq or else.

let me run a check switch. it should be getting it off of 61.5

StanUbankit

Aug 19, 2008

ka1z0ku said:
My 722 is picking up USA HD from 61.5, which should be the new MPEG-4 stream.

I recorded approximately 8 hours and 15 minutes of Olympics coverage overnight, about 2 nights ago (handball, weightlifting, boxing, etc...). Before recording, my remaining HD space was at approx. 26hrs 30mins (cannot remember exact number). After the recording? 25hrs 6mins.

I knew that MPEG-4 was more efficient than MPEG-2, but that's an almost 8:1 ratio. Can anyone confirm similar experiences?

If this turns out to be more than a fluke, then the MPEG-4 switch (when all HDs and SDs are MPEG-4 streams) would turn 50 hours of estimated space into 350-400 hours, provided the ratio holds up. But even if it leads to just a doubling or quadrupling of space, that's an enormous gain for free. :up

My experience with a 622 is that each hour of satellite recording takes up about 45 minutes of drive space. Each hour of ota takes up an hour of drive space. (The ota seems to hit right on the exact amount, in my completely un-scientific checks of time regained after deleting an event. Maybe the 722 is more effecient with the recording? And possibly it's because NBC shows so many commercials during the Olympics, and they don't take up as much space?

(TV Guide says they've been "averaging" 24 minutes of commercials per hour during the Olympics, it sure seems like I've had to zap thru more than that. I know, they gotta recoup their investment but still.)

Hall

Aug 19, 2008

P Smith already did a test and posted the results here. He started with an empty hard drive and recorded ALL MPEG4 programs and recorded the data. He wiped the drive again and recorded ALL MPEG2 programs and recorded the data .... or something well detailed. It's all posted here somewhere. I don't remember all of the details but I do know that it was by no means 8:1 ratio. It was more or less 2:1, as I recall.

Fitzie

Aug 20, 2008

hall said:
P Smith already did a test and posted the results here. He started with an empty hard drive and recorded ALL MPEG4 programs and recorded the data. He wiped the drive again and recorded ALL MPEG2 programs and recorded the data .... or something well detailed. It's all posted here somewhere. I don't remember all of the details but I do know that it was by no means 8:1 ratio. It was more or less 2:1, as I recall.

I haven't seen PSmith's post, but 2-1 is probably overstating it. I'll look for the post. My estimate is more like 1.8 to 1. But who's going to quibble over .2 of a point?

Fitzie

Rey

Aug 20, 2008

i'm good. getting from 61.5 on the west siiede.

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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

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Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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