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New to this forum - first post.

OK I have a BUD I still use for some analogue feeds and I used to use it with my old Sat-Cruiser FTA.

I was considering buying a new Ku receiver combo or buy a newer LNB for the BUD but when I got looking at the lists I noticed most all the PBS stations were "AC3" audio.

Upon reading old threads it looked like the only way to use that was an external device connected with fiber to the receiver. Is that still the case?

Also while looking through information I came across the a thread that many LA and soon NY channels are changing to MPEG4.

What's the skinny? Will it still be worth it to get an FTA. I am not a big movie watcher. I like news and documentaries. I probably don't watch more than an hour of TV per week but I live in a rural area and only get a couple of channels.

It seems in preparation for this big digital whoopdie-woo in Feb my two PBS sesame channels have turned of the local relay/translator stations in my area.

I am down to just 3 or 4 over the air channels now!

According to the lists there is still a Montana PBS in the clear without the AC3 shtuff.

So what now? ..wait for new mp4 receivers or jump in with a new (current) receiver.

I guess I could program a few channels into the Sat-Cruiser. If only the Sat-Cruiser had blind-search!
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Right now none of the diseqc acuator boxes control skew, but one is supposed to be coming from Sadoun in Nov that will. Alot of people use voltage controled lnb's so skew is not required. Some people use an anolog box to control skew and dish position and slave a dvb reciever to it. There are also a few dvb boxes that can controll skew such as Pansat 2500, 2700 and 3500. I'm not sure if any of these are still in production but they all have blind scan.
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Right now none of the diseqc acuator boxes control skew, but one is supposed to be coming from Sadoun in Nov that will. Alot of people use voltage controled lnb's so skew is not required. Some people use an anolog box to control skew and dish position and slave a dvb reciever to it. There are also a few dvb boxes that can controll skew such as Pansat 2500, 2700 and 3500. I'm not sure if any of these are still in production but they all have blind scan.

Cool Can you tell me a little how it works? I don't need the deep down knitty-gritty but I am interested how it works if you happen to know.

It that how all the Ku FTAers get my?

I mean I know about the circular on Dish and Dave but how does the Voltage Controlled LNB work with the linear Ku?
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I'm not sure how it works as it isn't out yet but it probably translates the 13V to one skew setting and 18V to the other skew setting.

Most people with ku only are using voltage controled lnbf's. These have no mechanical skew controller. They use 13V for vertical polarization and 18V for horizontal. If using a fixed dish the lnb is skewed for best reception and left there. With a motorized dish the lnb is set to zero degrees skew when dish is at true south and as the dish moves it rotates the entire dish and lnbf to get the correct skew.

Circular sats like dtv also use 13V for right hand and 18V for left hand. In this case the lnbf doesn't matter how it is rotated physically because of the circular polarity.

A mechanically skewed lnb requires 18-24V for both polarities and a servo to rotate the probe in the lnb for vertical or horizontal. This is the type you now have.

There are also voltage controlled lnb's for c band and combo c/ku lnb's that can be used on a big dish. These use the same idea as the other voltage controlled lnbf's but won't work on some older analog recievers unless the analog reciever is slaved to a dvb reciever.
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Yeah, having worked on mine I think they actually reverse the polarity to the servo to change the directions. It moves a small rod bent kind of like an 'L' or a hook. depending on how the bottom the 'L' is it decides if is V or H.

I have often thought about the newer smaller LNBs. I understand about zeroing out V&H at the top of the arc but I guess I can't comprehend how it would stay peaked as you move across the arc. The older C-band moved the entire dish just the same yet as you got farther across the ARC there was always some tweaking to get it maxed out. In my mind I just don't see the difference in how the older dished were moved across the arc with the actuator while the new small dishes use the Diseq motor. It's like if the small dishes could do it the Big ones should have as well but that's just my mind driving myself crazy.. ;)

Could it be that since it is a digital picture people don't are that if it is peaked or not?

You know the Satcruiser really did a pretty good job at controlling all that. Like I say if it only had blind-search. Maybe I'll have to keep an eye out for a new FTA that has the voltage and cojones to move the big actuator yest still have Blins search.

At that point I will get the newer Dual Band LNB I have seen.
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I remember when I had my bud there was a little tweaking of the skew on my far west sats but not much. A couple of degrees only. A digital signal is better in that regard because you either get it or you don't. With anolog it gets a little sparkly mostly on the reds if it isn't quite peaked.

You can keep the Satcruiser to set skew and slave a blind scan reciever to scan for feeds twice, once on H and then on V.

The servos don't reverse polarity by switching the power and ground. They use a pulse with different timing (width) to go drive the probe clockwise or counter clockwise. The red is always +5V and the black is always ground. The white wire is the pulse wire.

I was checking ebay for a remote for my pansat 2500a a couple days ago and there were a couple 2500a recievers for $50 or less. They blind scan (slow compared to my visionsat) and can control skew, but they still can't drive an acuator to position dish unless you also have a Vbox or Gbox. If the Satruiser can drive the dish as well as skew, it would probably be cheapest to slave a blind scan reciever.
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I guess for that matter my analogue GI also has a loop that I think I can use but I have never made it work quite right.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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With A Little Luck - Wings
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LITTLE Willy-Sweet
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Little Deuce Coupe - The Beach Boys
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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