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Last reply Oct 13, 2008 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Eastern Arc type service for Directv??

Why doesn't Directv offer A Eastern Arc Service like Dish.
- Dish offers there SD nationals in MPEG4 on there Eastern Arc service. Therefore providing them with an even better quality SD National Channels! Directv does NOT offer a service like this, but I feel they should!

I know Directv is mainly focusing on new HD channels, but they could focus on Both!

What do you think about this??

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rad

Oct 12, 2008

sundude90 said:
Why doesn't Directv offer A Eastern Arc Service like Dish.
- Dish offers there SD nationals in MPEG4 on there Eastern Arc service. Therefore providing them with an even better quality SD National Channels! Directv does NOT offer a service like this, but I feel they should!

I know Directv is mainly focusing on new HD channels, but they could focus on Both!

What do you think about this??

Have you read Scotts review of EA, he says it doesn't improve picture quailty IIRC, in fact E* went with the same lower resolution for the SD channels that their MPEG2 service has matching D*'s resolution. MPEG4 doesn't mean that PQ will be better, it just allows the companies to get comprable PQ using less bandwidth.

sundude90

Oct 12, 2008

rad said:
Have you read Scotts review of EA, he says it doesn't improve picture quailty IIRC, in fact E* went with the same lower resolution for the SD channels that their MPEG2 service has matching D*'s resolution. MPEG4 doesn't mean that PQ will be better, it just allows the companies to get comprable PQ using less bandwidth.

I have. I am saying all this, because I would really like Directv to offer some of my SD Nationals in MPEG 4. And because of the MPEG4, Directv wouldn't have to compress it as much as they do in MPEG4. But they could be like dish and compress it more, but I dought they would do that. My SD locals are in MPEG4 and the quality is better than my regular SD nationals, so becuase of that, I wish my SD nationals were also using the same technology, and hoping that Directv wouldn't have to compress them as much.

This is the only reason I want such a thing like this. I have never tried dish, so I don't know and i hope to never have too!

rad

Oct 12, 2008

sundude90 said:
I have. I am saying all this, because I would really like Directv to offer some of my SD Nationals in MPEG 4. And because of the MPEG4, Directv wouldn't have to compress it as much as they do in MPEG4. But they could be like dish and compress it more, but I dought they would do that. My SD locals are in MPEG4 and the quality is better than my regular SD nationals, so becuase of that, I wish my SD nationals were also using the same technology, and hoping that Directv wouldn't have to compress them as much.

This is the only reason I want such a thing like this. I have never tried dish, so I don't know and i hope to never have too!

Yes, it would be great if D* would convert everything to MPEG4 but as others have responded to you in other threads, it would cost D* a ton of money to replace millions of set top boxes just to get to MPEG4 for improved PQ. What's the real CBA for D* to do this? IIRC, D* is the #3 provider out there and yes they might pick up some subscribers if they had better PQ but I doubt that it would be enough to justify the many millions of dollars for box swap outs. IMHO, if D* had plans to go to an all MPEG4 service they would have been putting in MPEG4 chip sets when they started their own line of receivers ( back to the R15 rollout ) but didn't.

BTW, D* customers had b*tched about SD PQ when they started adding all the SD local into local channels and nothing has ever happened. Back before then PQ was VERY good, it was close to DVD quailty, but I doubt you'll ever see that again.

Matt9876

Oct 12, 2008

DirecTVs 99-101-103 HD/SD service is actually much better than the eastern arc due to the Ka band satellites and location in the sky.

gadgtfreek

Oct 12, 2008

I just cant get over the hard on for SD. I say quit worrying with SD and do what is needed to add HD and great PQ.

sundude90

Oct 12, 2008

elwaylite said:
I just cant get over the hard on for SD. I say quit worrying with SD and do what is needed to add HD and great PQ.

I would say do both. I really wonder if Directv could broadcast some MPEG 4 SD Nationals from another satellite while still broadcasting the normal SD MPEG 2 Nationals from 101. If they have the room to do that, then I think they should do it!!!

shibby191

Oct 13, 2008

First off, DirecTV doesn't need an EA type service. They don't have the bandwidth or satellite issues that Dish does. They are just fine from their core slot locations of 99/101/103. Besides, HD is their focus as that is were everyone is going.

Second, cost. It would cost hundreds of millions to replace 40+ million SD receivers. Again, just not worth it. However their long term plan seems to be going in that direction and let attrition take care of it. They are really close already to only giving out MPEG4 receivers to new subs and as replacements for any existing customers. Reason is below. So over time, with more and more people getting MPEG4 receivers in 5-8 years the majority of their customers might just have it and if they chose to switch to all MPEG4 it wouldn't cost as much. But for now they isn't a single reason why they would need switch all their SD to MPEG4.

sundude90 said:
I would say do both. I really wonder if Directv could broadcast some MPEG 4 SD Nationals from another satellite while still broadcasting the normal SD MPEG 2 Nationals from 101. If they have the room to do that, then I think they should do it!!!

Actually they do in some cases. There are already several SD locals in MPEG4 on the new KA sats (99/103). Most likely many of the SD markets at 72.5 will be moved to the KA sats. And the LA DNS channels are in MPEG4 on the 101 sat (or were over the summer, I think they were shut down by now in favor of the versions on the KA sats). So they are using MPEG4 for SD and on the main 101 sat as needed.

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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

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It's a known issue.
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I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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