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The first paragraph is just venting, if you care to read. Otherwise skip to the second paragraph :) So, between issues with Dish, issues with the installation contractor, and issues with our apartment complex, this install for Dish is going to take forever. We got Dish service last Monday (a little over a week ago). Tuesday, a contractor came out and couldn't find our patio (we live in a complex), so he called and said we needed it installed on our roof, and to get permission. In the mean time, they canceled our install. I called our complex, and they started jerking me around. They don't want people to get satellite because it's an "eye sore" (well f&#$ you too), so they're asking for a $500 deposit and we need $10K liability in renters insurance. We had time warner so much that we're willing to do that. So I call Dish back, and the only way to setup another installation call is to redo the WHOLE account (isn't it time for a more technologically advanced system?). So I sit through an hour long phone call where I tell them what I want again. After we do it all, and confirm the next installation date, I ask another question which she doesn't have an answer to. She puts me on hold, and the phone cuts out after 15 mins. Well, apparently they went ahead and canceled the install again, even though everything was completely finalized and confirmed, I just had a followup question. So the next day, I did the whole damn thing AGAIN. The guy came out again, examined our patio, and said we needed to get permission from the complex to mount it on the fence. So they canceled our appt again. Why do they have to cancel? I can get permission don't make me keep having to setup service over and over again. Well now I know better - I gotta get the letter from teh complex, fax it to the installers, THEN call Dish again and setup service for the 4th time in a little over a week. But my complex won't fax the letter to me... they want the money before they hand over the letter. Which puts me off a bit, they obviously know we want dish, and they're treatnig us like we're gonna skip out on the deposit. What, like we can hide the fact we're getting dish when we just got the permission slip from you? So now I have to wait until tomorrow, get the money, get the paper, fax it, call dish, and hopefully this will be it.

AT ANY RATE, the only real place we can have our dish setup is on our fence. It faces the south, and has a LoS to the southeast. However, we have a car port in the way (its very close). Someone told me it's not a big deal for them to prop the satellite up on maybe like a 1 foot pole or something to get a better line of sight. Is this common? Possible? It's very close and it would probably need no more than 1 foot of clearance above the top of our fence to get the proper LoS.
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I thought the new paperwork made the customer responsible for dealing with the apartment management.Something they sign that says they take responsibility.Don't make me go out to the van!
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hate to be a critic but.........

really, the OP needs to work out the details of the install with his management compnay BEFORE involving Dish or any techs for gods sake. what a waste of everyones time and money!

If I was the dispatching office, I would be cancelling your work order too! Our office AND THE TECH takes a "hit" from every new account that gets scheduled and doesnt go in. This costs the tech money dude! You did it to them TWICE already.

I know you really really want the service but, youre messing with peoples lives here.
WiCkeDuDe
hate to be a critic but.........

really, the OP needs to work out the details of the install with his management compnay BEFORE involving Dish or any techs for gods sake. what a waste of everyones time and money!

If I was the dispatching office, I would be cancelling your work order too! Our office AND THE TECH takes a "hit" from every new account that gets scheduled and doesnt go in. This costs the tech money dude! You did it to them TWICE already.

I know you really really want the service but, youre messing with peoples lives here.

Which is all bs from dish network that they need to fix. Like the customer knows that it costs them. The dish system doesnt take into account a little thing called real life. He just wants to get satellite tv installed and is getting jerked around. I dont blame him it all for being ticked. I went through all this hassle when I lived in a apartment as well. Finally I just bought a dish and did it myself to save all the hassle. I agree a local retailer will be much more likely to help you. Dish internal has so many bs policies that a tech can be hit for anything and is just a hinderence.
dishcomm
I thought the new paperwork made the customer responsible for dealing with the apartment management.Something they sign that says they take responsibility.Don't make me go out to the van!
NO WAY...in this state and neghboring SC, tenant laws deal mainly with leases. In the lease there are things the tenant must do and others he cannot do. Other than that tenants have little liability. That said, if a tenant allows a sat install and the mgmnt objects, the only recourse the mgmnt has is to remove the dish. Any damage, drill penetratrions ,etc, the mgmnt must seek a claim vs the installer, not the tenant. So until those laws are chaged no piece of paper that disagres with state law is going to matter to me. So if Dish makes up a waiver ,it's moot. By law the tenant cannot assume responsibility.
dishcomm
Which is all bs from dish network that they need to fix. Like the customer knows that it costs them. The dish system doesnt take into account a little thing called real life. He just wants to get satellite tv installed and is getting jerked around. I dont blame him it all for being ticked. I went through all this hassle when I lived in a apartment as well. Finally I just bought a dish and did it myself to save all the hassle. I agree a local retailer will be much more likely to help you. Dish internal has so many bs policies that a tech can be hit for anything and is just a hinderence.
Yer right. Customer is geting jerked around. But the problem is between Dish and the customer. Or at least it should be, The moment a tech gets that w/o, he is in the middle of it. We as techs are the last line of defense. We are supposed to fix all the problems. We are expected to be a liason fo Dish and a secondary sales person for the retailer. Then we have to deal with the customer's needs. The latter should be our only resonsibility..
So here's the deal. When a customer no shows, or hasn't moved into their new home yet or has not closed or has no tv's or lives in a restirctive apartment community or any other number of ridiculous occurances WE are responsible. And that responsibility shows up on two fronts. One is the staitistics Dish keeps. The other is the loss of income and expense of wear and tear on our vehicles and fuel expenses.
WiCkeDuDe
Yer right. Customer is geting jerked around. But the problem is between Dish and the customer. Or at least it should be, The moment a tech gets that w/o, he is in the middle of it. We as techs are the last line of defense. We are supposed to fix all the problems. We are expected to be a liason fo Dish and a secondary sales person for the retailer. Then we have to deal with the customer's needs. The latter should be our only resonsibility..
So here's the deal. When a customer no shows, or hasn't moved into their new home yet or has not closed or has no tv's or lives in a restirctive apartment community or any other number of ridiculous occurances WE are responsible. And that responsibility shows up on two fronts. One is the staitistics Dish keeps. The other is the loss of income and expense of wear and tear on our vehicles and fuel expenses.

Trust me I know what you mean. As a former DNS tech I saw my fair of ahole customers that were a PITA. When the stack ranking came out things just got worse. I was always torn because I wanted to get a system in for a customer but yet there were too many potentional problems that came up as a tech which we were expected to solve. With the stack rankings I said enough is enough when my pay got affected for things outside my control. In all its a crappy system for both the customer and the tech. All dish cares about is profit, not the customer or the techs IMO.
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Yep, in fact we are now getting FINED for recalls.

Customer can't understand the remote, or changed their mind about the receiver location, or the receiver has an intermittent, and calls in a new service call after we'd been there -- they revoke our pay for the original service call/install, and also fine us in the amount of our pay! So we have to actually pay for the privilege of doing that job!

Believe it, or not.

Murderous.
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Yep, in fact we are now getting FINED for recalls.

Customer can't understand the remote, or changed their mind about the receiver location, or the receiver has an intermittent, and calls in a new service call after we'd been there -- they revoke our pay for the original service call/install, and also fine us in the amount of our pay! So we have to actually pay for the privilege of doing that job!

Believe it, or not.

Murderous.

Exactly! Nothing better than doing a job... getting charged back for it double what you made. 2 trips to home, your gas, your time, your materials, dish still getting income from customer and laughing at us all the way to the bank. And they wonder why so many good techs have gone and they are trying desperately to hire new ones.

But more to the topic point..

Sorry for your install nightmare. Although frustrated, you seem to have the patience of a saint. I agree with the other posters.. you may be better off going with a local retailer.
It's not your fault, but as installers apartments/condos can be nightmares. I've done some, but I won't do any penetrations. The ones I have done I have been able to hook into the existing wires and be ok. Sometimes it takes forever to find which wires belong where.
I have to carry my own liability insurance, which thankfully I have never had to use. But I'm not going to put myself in a situation where the landlord comes looking at me because I installed a dish on his unit. Sounds like your management is already being a PITA which would be a large warning sign to me. It's not your fault as the tenant, but as an installer I'd walk..er..run from that job. Just a bad situation waiting to happen and as much as Dish wants your money they would throw me under the bus in a heartbeat if the landlord had any problems with the install. Just put yourself in the installers shoes.
Some people accuse us of being lazy sometimes and yes, there are lazy techs. In my situation I get paid ONLY for work completed. That means if I drive all the way to your location and spend time with you to see where to put the dish/receivers/etc and decide it can't be done I've just spent all that time for nothing. I don't like doing that because I have a family to feed, but sometimes it's a lot easier to walk away than put yourself in a bad situation.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

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Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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With A Little Luck - Wings
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LITTLE Willy-Sweet
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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