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Dish Network's 3Q Net Slides 54%; EchoStar Loss Widens

November 10, 2008: 07:06 AM EST


DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

Dish Network Corp. (DISH) posted a 54% decrease in third-quarter net income on an investment-related charge and a second-straight quarterly reduction in subscribership while sister company EchoStar Corp.'s (SATS) net loss widened on a similar charge.
Dish, the nation's second-largest satellite television provider behind DirecTV Group Inc. (DTV), posted net income of $92 million, or 20 cents a share, down from $200 million, or 45 cents a share, a year earlier. The latest results included an undisclosed amount of charge on marketable and non-marketable securities.

Revenue increased 5.1% to $2.94 billion.

Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters expected earnings of 58 cents on revenue of $2.9 billion.

The company lost 10,000 net subscribers during the quarter, ending the period with about 13.8 million subscribers. That follows the second quarter's decline of 25,000, the first for Dish Network.

In September, AT&T Inc. (T) said it would switch its signal to DirecTV from Dish Network starting Jan. 31, after its agreement with Dish expires. The announcement was a huge blow to Dish and will likely result in further subscriber losses.

Dish faces escalating pressure to devise a new survival strategy in the face of tough competition not just from DirecTV but also from cable providers and telecom firms offering TV service. Analysts said its options included improving customers' experience, bundling services with TV makers or retailers and finding new partnerships. Analysts have also said a partnership with TiVo Inc. (TIVO) is possible after years of contentious patent litigation

Dish focuses on the low-end consumer, which is getting squeezed by the weakening macroeconomic environment. DirecTV has been able to better weather the storm because its customers are more affluent and less vulnerable and because it had a quicker roll-out of high-definition programming and sports packages.

In its third quarter as a separate public company, EchoStar posted a net loss of $308 million,or $3.43 a share, compared with a year-earlier net loss of $7 million, or 7 cents a share, a year earlier. The latest results also included unrealized securities losses, also not detailed.

Revenue rose 52% to $616 million.

Analysts expected a 1-cent loss on revenue of $520 million.

Dish's shares closed at $15.52 Friday and EchoStar's closed at $18.40. There was no premarket activity
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Dish VIP
So there is not a new dish, as Greczkowski is spinning? Jeez, now I sound like O'Riley. lol

Here is a slimline professionally installed by Ironwood Communications in So. Calif. http://www.satelliteguys.us/directv-forum/129643-how-do-i-get-d-repair-damage.html#post1288816

Allright, to get back on topic, I think 13.8 million subscribers is a hellofalot. Losing %0.25 in 6 months doesn't sound like doom and gloom.
DodgerKing
So there is not a new dish, as Greczkowski is spinning? Jeez, now I sound like O'Riley. lol
You missed something again. With the new 3lnb in one lnb unit (as was shown in the picture), one only needs a small circular dish now. So you do not need a BIG dish.
vampz26
I don't know when DK or Rad switched to E*, but gosh guys...you couldn't have picked a worse time. Did you get a really good deal on the installs or something? Free DVRs? :eek:

I know they are desparate to increase their subscriber base...but I thought you two would NEVER switch. It must have been a great deal...please do share!

Wow...:confused:
rad
rad
I don't know when DK or Rad switched to E*...

No way, only correcting incorrect information posted by the dish loving DishVIP and then making sure DogerKing is also posting accurate information.
L
Please think a little before posting...!

I was referring to new subscribers to their Superstation package. DISH has an advantage over Directv in offering the supers, so make the most of it.
DodgerKing
No way, only correcting incorrect information posted by the dish loving DishVIP and then making sure DogerKing is also posting accurate information.
Still a Direct sub myself. Like you my concern is clarity at accuracy. I just try to correct misinformation and hope that others do the same when I post something incorrect.

I hope both providers do well and wish both have a much better Q4. It is good for both when both do well.
vampz26
Still a Direct sub myself. Like you my concern is clarity at accuracy. I just try to correct misinformation and hope that others do the same when I post something incorrect.

I hope both providers do well and wish both have a much better Q4. It is good for both when both do well.

You know what its called when D* subs start posting in an E* forum telling E* subs where they are wrong?

Trolling...

At least thats what YOU would call it if I was posting similiar commentary in the D* forums...
Ronnie-
You missed something again. With the new 3lnb in one lnb unit (as was shown in the picture), one only needs a small circular dish now. So you do not need a BIG dish.

Dodger, everything I have seen on it says that it is the same dish with a 3 lnb instead of a 5.
Rey
Rey
Dodger, everything I have seen on it says that it is the same dish with a 3 lnb instead of a 5.

you're right msmith. the installers manual for this 3 lnb shows the same dish that's used for the 5lnb's
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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comfortably_numb
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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harshness
medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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dishstaller
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Don't know if any of you have watched this series yet, it would be interesting to see if you feel this review was accurate. It was very humorous to listen to however.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tsDO3y8I2c
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KAB
KAB
What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
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What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
If the review is like the article, oi! Eighteen paragraphs into the review and... all they've done is not really talk at all about the actual thing they are reviewing.

Halfway into the "written" review, I know more about how the writer "thinks" than I do about what they are writing about. I understand their politics, their self-overestimated understanding of film, their inability to be funny.

Takes about 22 paragraphs to get to one that starts "Anyway, the story kicks off...". Talk about Slop! 😂
K
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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MikeD-C05
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
MikeD-C05
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Jimbo
Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
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long_time_Dish
Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...
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primestar31
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
star trek GIF by HULU


Just sayin...
MikeD-C05
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

All In The Family Nostalgia GIF by Sony Pictures Television
All In The Family Singing GIF by Sony Pictures Television
harshness
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
long_time_Dish
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Gondoliers, Shakespeares, Overseers, Playboys and Bums - Norman Greenbaum
Bobby
I Wish I Was Eighteen Again - George Burns
harshness
I Wish - Stevie Wonder
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Lonesome Road -- The Wonder Who?
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Lonesome Loser - Little River Band