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Last reply Nov 25, 2008 · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

NEW DVR Features

For those that care & don't continually bash Cablevisions DVR.

There are some new features:

Bookmarks positions for ALL recordings. No more watching one program then if you stop in the middle your position would be cleared when you start a new program.

DVR programs now give program info instead of it just displaying a blank IO DVR info.

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Cobra611

Nov 11, 2008

Yes I did state that. Tells me the product is not that good.
What do weak lines have to do with the problems I have with the cable box? Weak lines contribute to slow channel changes??? Weak lines contribute to to a blank screen when selecting a program from my DVR? Weak lines contribute to very slow reboot times?? I truly doubt it. As for my picture break ups, THAT is Cablevision and I'm fairly certain it is the SAME thing everyone complains about. If you switch to HGTVHD and tell me the your picture is as good as or better than, let's say CBSHD or MSGHD, I'm not gonna believe you. Let me clarify my original post...I stand by my assertion that the 8300HD & whatever the SD version is, are both outdated pieces of electronics. Their (meaning Cablevision) HD is extremely poor(overall). Some channels are great(CBSHD, MSGHD, SNYHD, YESHD), some are good and some really shouldn't be called HD. I don't see how you can contest that.

milan2

Nov 13, 2008

Cobra611 said:
Some channels are great(CBSHD, MSGHD, SNYHD, YESHD), some are good and some really shouldn't be called HD. I don't see how you can contest that.

Newsflash. Not all channels are in true HD.

Newsflash just because its on a HD channel doesn't mean its in HD.

Newsflash you have been complaining for nothing. You really don't understand how HD works. Its the signal from the network. Not Cablevision.

RexxV

Nov 13, 2008

milan2 said:
Newsflash. Not all channels are in true HD.

Newsflash just because its on a HD channel doesn't mean its in HD.

Newsflash you have been complaining for nothing. You really don't understand how HD works. Its the signal from the network. Not Cablevision.

Newsflash - Cablevision compresses the hell out of most of their HD channels reducing their bandwidth by 50% which destroys the quality of the HD channel. (i.e. all Voom Channels, MOJO, VSHD, NGHD, DiscoveryHD, TBSHD, TNTHD, etc...)

milan2

Nov 13, 2008

RexxV said:
Newsflash - Cablevision compresses the hell out of most of their HD channels reducing their bandwidth by 50% which destroys the quality of the HD channel. (i.e. all Voom Channels, MOJO, VSHD, NGHD, DiscoveryHD, TBSHD, TNTHD, etc...)

Compresses 50% ?

Link? Proof?

I don't know about you, but my Voom Channel are gorgeous. All the pay channels are just as beautiful. Just a COUPLE of channels are not up to snuff. Still look great compared to the SD channel, but not perfect. I can live with it considering they are the network isn't really top notch HD to begin with.

Newsflash: OLD Law & Order episodes are not all of sudden in HD. Its not about compression. Your telling me that because CW & MY9 don't look as good as NBC its because of compression? Its just not true. Its what the network is pumping out. So what your telling me is that 20 HD channels in a row from TRUE HD Networks then you come upon something like TBS, and your watching an old episode of Family Matters, and it dosen't look that great as the other channels you wanna blame Cablevision? You really don't understand the workings of TV.

Is amazing what people complain about. Four years ago you people were watching TV on a 20 inch RCA. Now you want the world. You really don't get how HD works. Thats right , blame Cablevision. They are a ton of things that are the reason your screen looks subpar BEFORE YOU BLAME CABLEVISION. Ever think that your TV sucks?

Bottom line:

I have a great TV.
I have great CLEAR service.
I have had NO problems with my boxes.

I'm happy.

cableguy79

Nov 14, 2008

while i agree the dvr 8300 hd sucks big squirrel nuts, i can tell you from headend knowledge that for every frequency there are 2 hd channels put into the bandwidth. There are however a few exceptions, TBS HD is one channel that has 3 maybe 4 channels in their respective frequency......however, the ONLY reason for this is that most of the programming TBSHD sends cablevision is not in HD, and your tv needs to format it, same holds true for other channels like HGTVHD, etc. The poor picture quality has little to do with cablevision and mostly lies fault in these respective channels feed to CV.
As for slow interactive features, you first need to find out if your box has an ip address....(reply for instructions on how to access this if you dont know). If your box does have an ip, pull out the card and see if it has any burn marks on the reverse side of the chip, if you pass all of the above diagnostics, you may need a box swap, components do fail over time, as im sure you know.
As for slow channel changing, see the first sentence of this reply.
I have to say that all of these problems are so minor I cant see myself getting mad at CV for them, my picture pixelates more than normal, I know what the problem is, I just dont pay it much mind, bc i dont get mad at the petty sh*t, CV offers a good service for the price, and if your complaining now, wait til you get your first fios bill when you switch, I switched right back to CV after I got it. To put it simply, the grass is definetley not greener on the other side. The picture with fios is better, but poor customer service, expensive bills, and an internet that is so lagged with problems it made CV look iconic made me come crawling back to CV, and they welcomed me back with open arms and a 2 year promotion package.

cforrest

Nov 14, 2008

cableguy79 said:
i can tell you from headend knowledge that for every frequency there are 2 hd channels put into the bandwidth. There are however a few exceptions, TBS HD is one channel that has 3 maybe 4 channels in their respective frequency......however, the ONLY reason for this is that most of the programming TBSHD sends cablevision is not in HD, and your tv needs to format it, same holds true for other channels like HGTVHD, etc. The poor picture quality has little to do with cablevision and mostly lies fault in these respective channels feed to CV.

Re: Cablevision to add 15 more HD Channels in August - dslreports.com

Care to explain this list then?

RexxV

Nov 15, 2008

milan2 said:
Compresses 50% ?

Link? Proof?

I'm happy.

I don't need a link. The proof is right in the SA8300. If you look at the QAM channel assignments you will see that MOST QAM frequencies have 4 HD channels assigned to them.

In order to squeeze that much into these QAMs you need to compress the bandwidth, in some cases from 18Mbs to 9Mbs (50% reduction).

The only channels that are not compressed, as far as I can tell, are the broadcast channels, the local RSNs & ESPN(1 & 2).

All others are compressed to varying degrees.

I also know the difference between true HD and upconversion so you can get off your high horse. I've had CV's HD offering since the beginning and the quality has greatly diminished from then. Back then all the channels looked amazing. But as the bandwidth requirements for adding all these new channels increased, so did compression (not from the provider, but by Cablevision).

I'm glad your happy, most people aren't. Maybe your watching a much smaller TV, I don't know. Most others have a different experience than you.

cableguy79

Nov 16, 2008

cforrest said:
Re: Cablevision to add 15 more HD Channels in August - dslreports.com

Care to explain this list then?

I stand corrected, the info I recieved was when there werent that many HD channels yet, bravo mr forrest.

uroberto

Nov 20, 2008

cforrest said:
Re: Cablevision to add 15 more HD Channels in August - dslreports.com

Care to explain this list then?

I definitely agree that Cablevision overcompresses their digital channels. I've been able to compare Dish network and Cablevision's HD channels on my 37" LCD HDTV. I understand that cablevision still uses MPEG2 and Dish uses MPEG4 compression for their HD. For the SD, both Cablevision and Dish overcompress.
I told a friend that had Comcast (now he has FIOS) that Cablevision puts 4 HD channels in one frequency. He thought they were crazy.

jsq

Nov 24, 2008

Cablevisons boxes are really painfully slow. I have an HD DVR, and a HD box. Both are slow, not just the DVR box. My regualar HD box was actually slower than the DVR one, so I returned it for a new one, and it was quite a bit better, but has seemed to have gotten worse with time. Only about 6 months. They also have very limited features with their boxes, compared to other providers. I'm looking into the satellite companies now, trying to save a few bucks. My promo period just ended, and my bill went up over $50 a month. Funny when i signed up, the sales person said it would only go up a few dollars when the promo ended.

mkm4

Nov 25, 2008

jsq said:
Funny when i signed up, the sales person said it would only go up a few dollars when the promo ended.

They proably forgot to mention is was "a few dollars, per day."

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Bruce

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Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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dishstaller

Oct 22, 2026

Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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ncted

Oct 24, 2026

Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

brice52

Oct 24, 2026

ncted said:
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

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(((Garyd)))

Oct 24, 2026

brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

Jimbo

Oct 24, 2026

brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

Copper lines are fine ... until it hits the AIR.

Bruce

Oct 25, 2026

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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brice52

Oct 25, 2026

(((Garyd))) said:
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one

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Bruce

11 minutes ago

Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, than Fiber, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

Spectrum Loses 233,000 Internet and 77,000 TV Customers in Third Quarter As Cord Cutting 2.0 Grows | Cord Cutters News

Charter Communications reported a further erosion of its core broadband base in the third quarter of 2026, with Spectrum losing 233,000 Internet customers on a pro forma basis that incorporates the recently completed Cox acquisition. Residential accounts accounted for nearly all of the decline...

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Bruce

4 minutes ago

and this from AI, for some reason, not on Echostar's investor page-

In the third quarter of 2026, parent company EchoStar (owner of Dish Network and Sling TV) reported a net loss of 43,000 pay-TV subscribers, compared to a drop of 64,000 in the same period last year. [1]

Traditional Dish Satellite TV: Experienced a net decline of approximately 188,000 subscribers, ending September 2026 with 4.89 million satellite customers. [1]
- Sling TV (Streaming): Added roughly 145,000 net subscribers during the quarter, partially offsetting the satellite losses. [1]
- Total Pay-TV Base: Ended the third quarter with 7.03 million total pay-TV subscribers

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ewindowman

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Last reply 7 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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man00

Yesterday at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:54 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

dish has new sats dtv does not

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renjy651

Today at 6:37 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not

Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

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comfortably_numb

7 minutes ago

renjy651 said:
What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...

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