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Hello all, and thanks for creating and maintaining such a valuable knowledge base.

Amusing History:
I live in an apartment building, and was told I cannot install dish. Being the type that loves to overcome any and every challenge, I kept cross questioning the management as to why, until they said that I could not make holes in any exterior walls for installation. I took that as their "written in stone" rule, created a workaround, bought a few shelf arms and sheet metal from Home depot, and made holes on the air conditioner unit's casing(thats not an exterior wall, ;) ), created a shelf, installed the dish, and lived happily ever after.

As usual, this isn't a movie and the story doesn't end here. This was just one dish, on my window, facing 61.5 so I could only get international channels. Then after discussions with a neighbor who lives on the diagonally opposite end of the building and facing 110/119, I convinced him to install the dish 500 on his ac unit. Now, I needed a feed from his dish, and he from mine. We somehow managed to tip the super to help us run 2 hidden cables in the building shafts, and the length was 500 feet each since we're on different floors and on opposite ends of the building. After days of hidden work, we managed to accomplish this. We have our own accounts, but we share the dishes.

The Present dilemma:
His window has a legacy twin 500, and I have a 300 dish with legacy dual lnb. One cable carries 110/119 from the twin to my place, and the other cable carries the 61.5 from mine to his place. We both have SW21 switches in each apartment combining the 2 feeds. I have a DishPro 811, and my neighbor has a DishPro 301 Now I have decided to add a second receiver to my account for my bedroom. Is there a way for me to add a second receiver in my apartment, without having to run a third cable from my place to his? I am willing to change any and every switch, and LNB's if necessary, but running additional cable will be next to impossible.
Ideas?? Comments?? Snide remarks??
All appreciated. Thanks.
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ajohnson
You should probably look at the Dish Install Diagram thread over on dbstalk and take a gander at the pdf file in the first message. You want the last page, 16.

If you really want to try and run dual-tuner receivers with the dpp separator so you can use single cable runs (this only works with the 322, 522, and 921), you would need to replace the relativly inexpensive dp34 switches with the more expensive dpp44. The separator WILL NOT WORK with any other unit, don't even think about it.
SimpleSimon
OK. It looks like you didn't start a new thread - and that's fine.

Your concept is admirable, but reality intrudes. The building is probably wired with el-crapola RG-59, with 237 splitters per foot.

If by some miracle, each apartment has:
  • their own dedicated 2150MHz RG-6 cable
  • it runs to a central point
  • and has maximum distance of 100' or so
then you've got a half-decent chance of pulling this off - if you spend enough money.

LNBFs must be DishPro. They must be within 100' of the central point. More accurately, the total of dish-to-switch ad switch-to-receiver must be 200' or less.

Users that only need to 'see' 3 satellites (110, 119, 61.5) and only need one receiver can be attached via lower-cost DP34 switches. A user that needs a dual-tuner (322, 522, 721, 921) box or needs to access a 4th satellite (don't worry about that now) needs to be hooked up to the DPP44 switch. You can cascade 3 switches from a single set of LNBFs. This means between 12 and 24 tuners available - depending on the mix. More than 3 switches means an extra set of dishes.

You don't say how big the building is, but now you've got an idea of the scale involved.

Finally, if this plan moves forward, you need to consider the E* MDU offerings - and they may still have the special receiver designed to work with RG-59. I think it's a 3750, but don't quote me.
Neutron
Why didn't you just have DISH run new RG-6 lines when it was installed?

I live in an apartment and I had Directv run 4 lines (3 receiver 1 OTA) through 2 windows. They used flat coax to go through the windows so I can close them and not worry about the cable.

Works fine for my HD.
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well, u might wanna go with wireless video transmitters. but will need multi switch to run more than 2 recievers with 3 sat input. u will have set up your reciever in your neighbor apartment. depending on where u buy it, range on wireless video transmitter is 100~500 feet.
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1 more thought, or u can set up reciever his apartment and diplex your line going to your place, and use uhf remote. then u don't wireless video transmitter. might be more economical. than u only need to get UHF upgrade kit and multi-switch.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
JSheridan
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Foxbat
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
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But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Strange Days - Nazareth
gms49ers
Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin
dishstaller
Dancing in the Street - Van Halen
long_time_Dish
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
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Bobby
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Let me fix that for you:
Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty
osu1991
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long_time_Dish
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
K
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
long_time_Dish
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...
long_time_Dish
Well, it looks good! I just hope they stayed close to the trilogy, but it doesn't look like it.
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