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Still under 2 yr contract - can Dish raise $$ on me?

I am still under a 2 year contract (signed up in Feb of 2008). I am paying about $41 per month right now (including HD-DVR, locals and the $29.99 programming DishHD). I heard rumors about price increases. Am I subjected to that? Is there anything I can do to get out of the price increase? Can I cancel the contract?
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I am gonna disagree here.
YOU CAN CANCEL CONTRACT IF PRICES ARE RAISED.WHILE IN CONTRACT.

I am not lawyer but It was major related credit class BUSINESS LAW that I took in university and taught by 30 year lawyer.

If contract clause is not specific with price raise i.e. "x party reserve right to raise party..." that gives them right to raise price BUT CANNOT FORCE you to accept. If you cancel with 30 days (varies by states)
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ccuser said:
I am gonna disagree here.
YOU CAN CANCEL CONTRACT IF PRICES ARE RAISED.WHILE IN CONTRACT.

I am not lawyer but It was major related credit class BUSINESS LAW that I took in university and taught by 30 year lawyer.

If contract clause is not specific with price raise i.e. "x party reserve right to raise party..." that gives them right to raise price BUT CANNOT FORCE you to accept. If you cancel with 30 days (varies by states)
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We all agreed to the fact that Dish can increase prices, and change programming at any timer with no recourse, when we signed our contracts. And if you think you've got a defense by saying it was too much trouble for you to read, you're just gonna give a judge a good laugh. Or, more likely, make him sigh.
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I just love newbies here...
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navychop said:
We all agreed to the fact that Dish can increase prices, and change programming at any timer with no recourse, when we signed our contracts. And if you think you've got a defense by saying it was too much trouble for you to read, you're just gonna give a judge a good laugh. Or, more likely, make him sigh.
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Well, first off ...thanks everyone for their input.

About year & half ago I signed up T-mobile with 2 year contract. There was ETF fee of either $180 or $200. But 8 months in contract pay-per-text message went up from $.10 to $.15. I decided to put professor claim to test. I showed him contract after class. He said contract will be voided and renewed if I stay silent for x # of days. I called T.mob retention center claiming I do not agree with price and would like cancel my service (ummm I did get free phone on sign up..sssshhh). They try to offer few month free text but I insist on canceling...fast forward...it has been about half year since then I didn't pay ETF and canceled my service.

I shared my experience with my cousin who was with Sprint, Sprint raise their rates as well, I told him the process I went through and guess what?...he was off the hook too. He in fact made thread on howard fourms, which is now well above 50 pages long thread with other users sharing their experience...


T-mobile contract language was along line" T-mobile reserve right to raise price at its discretion"...which means in layman term , they can change price BUT CANNOT FORCE YOU TO ACCEPT. However if you stay silent for X # of days, it means you agreed with it and it continues with revised contract.

My Office/Warehouse 5 year contract lease is along lines"...rent will increase by 7% on every Augest..." layman term, rent will go up by upto 7% and contract will stay intact. My landloard cant just raise it to whatever he wants (just or unjust).

I realize that most of us here are either videophiler or dish contracter/employee. Probably none of us are legal expert and neither am I...I just happen stumble upon cell phone contract loophole which you can exploit (I think within 15 or 30 days in Texas; varies by state) only when rates go up that are not explicitly defined in contract. I and many other benefited from (or you can say we screwed cellphone company) after learning it and we shared it only through these forums.

If anyone in forum is with legal background, or knows someone with legal expertise, ask them for their feedback for what I just said... see if it holds water...

P.S. if you are in military and are being deployed, you can you use that to get out of contract without penalty. They may ask for deployment letter. It has to do something with your arm force contract over ruling other civils.

P.P.S; sorry for such a long post, just trying to share some relevant info and please respectfully debate if I am wrong...
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Slamminc11 said:
I just love newbies here...
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Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason that so many people ask about getting out of their contract, and other things like viewing their recorded programs on their PC, or getting out-of-market locals, or getting channels a la carte, is because THE NORMAL PERSON THINKS THESE ARE REASONABLE THINGS? Any law that says you can't do something that you obviously should be able to do is a law enacted by someone who is either demented or violently anti-freedom or both.
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Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason that so many people ask about getting out of their contract, and other things like viewing their recorded programs on their PC, or getting out-of-market locals, or getting channels a la carte, is because THE NORMAL PERSON THINKS THESE ARE REASONABLE THINGS? Any law that says you can't do something that you obviously should be able to do is a law enacted by someone who is either demented or violently anti-freedom or both.
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The reasonable thing would have been to read and understand the contract before signing it, and then if you don't like what it says, not signing it in the first place. That's reasonable. But to cry about it three, six, 10 months later about how you are being mistreated and they should let you out of the contract is just plain idiotic!
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Well, first off ...thanks everyone for their input.

About year & half ago I signed up T-mobile with 2 year contract. There was ETF fee of either $180 or $200. But 8 months in contract pay-per-text message went up from $.10 to $.15. I decided to put professor claim to test. I showed him contract after class. He said contract will be voided and renewed if I stay silent for x # of days. I called T.mob retention center claiming I do not agree with price and would like cancel my service (ummm I did get free phone on sign up..sssshhh). They try to offer few month free text but I insist on canceling...fast forward...it has been about half year since then I didn't pay ETF and canceled my service.

I shared my experience with my cousin who was with Sprint, Sprint raise their rates as well, I told him the process I went through and guess what?...he was off the hook too. He in fact made thread on howard fourms, which is now well above 50 pages long thread with other users sharing their experience...


T-mobile contract language was along line" T-mobile reserve right to raise price at its discretion"...which means in layman term , they can change price BUT CANNOT FORCE YOU TO ACCEPT. However if you stay silent for X # of days, it means you agreed with it and it continues with revised contract.

My Office/Warehouse 5 year contract lease is along lines"...rent will increase by 7% on every Augest..." layman term, rent will go up by upto 7% and contract will stay intact. My landloard cant just raise it to whatever he wants (just or unjust).

I realize that most of us here are either videophiler or dish contracter/employee. Probably none of us are legal expert and neither am I...I just happen stumble upon cell phone contract loophole which you can exploit (I think within 15 or 30 days in Texas; varies by state) only when rates go up that are not explicitly defined in contract. I and many other benefited from (or you can say we screwed cellphone company) after learning it and we shared it only through these forums.

If anyone in forum is with legal background, or knows someone with legal expertise, ask them for their feedback for what I just said... see if it holds water...

P.S. if you are in military and are being deployed, you can you use that to get out of contract without penalty. They may ask for deployment letter. It has to do something with your arm force contract over ruling other civils.

P.P.S; sorry for such a long post, just trying to share some relevant info and please respectfully debate if I am wrong...
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You are comparing very different contracts. Yes, cell phone agreements state that no fees or rates can change, but the Dish Network doesn't. A quick search gave me the following language from the agreement:

G. Changes in Services offered. DISH Network reserves the right to change the Services that we offer, and our prices or fees related to such Services at any time. If the change affects you, we will provide you notice of the change and its effective date. The notice may be provided on your billing statement or by other communication permitted under Section 9B. In the event of a change in the contents of any programming, programming packages or other Services, you understand and agree that we have no obligation to replace or supplement the programming, programming packages or other Services previously offered that have been deleted, rearranged or otherwise changed. You further understand and agree you will not be entitled to any refund because of a change in the contents of any programming, programming packages, or other Services previously offered.

Pretty clear cut... don't need a lawyer for that.
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Hate to be stubborn mule....

BrianB said:
You are comparing very different contracts. Yes, cell phone agreements state that no fees or rates can change, but the Dish Network doesn't. A quick search gave me the following language from the agreement:

G. Changes in Services offered. DISH Network reserves the right to change the Services that we offer, and our prices or fees related to such Services at any time. If the change affects you, we will provide you notice of the change and its effective date. The notice may be provided on your billing statement or by other communication permitted under Section 9B. In the event of a change in the contents of any programming, programming packages or other Services, you understand and agree that we have no obligation to replace or supplement the programming, programming packages or other Services previously offered that have been deleted, rearranged or otherwise changed. You further understand and agree you will not be entitled to any refund because of a change in the contents of any programming, programming packages, or other Services previously offered....
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Thanks for posting contract terms here but I disagree here (hope I am not sounding like a stubborn mule...don't burn me this comment:o)

HIGHLIGHT where it says you HAVE TO AGREE with new terms. It says:

  • Dish can change whatever they want.
  • you cannot ask for replacement or supplement
  • you cannot ask for refund or discount
No mention for YOU to agree with change of terms. Reason they will notify is because state law requires them and your silence in reply will enforce new terms.. They wont mention it because...law does not require them to disclose that you cancel it that point.

I am subscribed to HD absolute package. I am hearing that i will forced out of it by 02/09. I shall have chat with them when time comes. I will update with result of it.


Pretty clear cut... don't need a lawyer for that.
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Contract 101: (learned @ school): don't assume anything. If it is not mentioned then it is NOT part of accord.


P.S. I called my cousin who I mentioned in previous post. I am passing along what he told me. if anyone who wanna get out Sprint cellphone contract now it is time (before 01/09). They are raising "Administration Fee" from $.75 to a $1.00. guess what that is....contract revision. PM me or head over to slick deals if you need CANNED dialogue to say to sprint....
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Most companies will throw whiners a bone to stay with the company but if they whine even louder, letting them go is no big deal when there are millions more.

One exception: ATT

I would love to see you try to get out of an ATT contract without paying.

Lawyers are always spouting what they can do and get away with because they are in the system and know all the trick phrases to make it not worth the company's time to deal with the matter. Then some armchair lawyer thinks they can do the same, gets lucky and starts telling everyone to pull the same stunt. Some companies will just drop you, others will crush your little pinhead and take the two pennies inside.

All this talk about contracts MIGHT be correct in places, however, you will find that most documents people sign today say AGREEMENT, not contract. So the document will say something like Service Agreement.

As for the military, Congress did ONE thing right and signed the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act, giving military members the ability to stop predators from raping them and their families when they are called to serve their country and wind up in a foreign combat zone.
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Auto Racing 2026

New thread or keep this one?

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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

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TVs are really getting big these days

Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.
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I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

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Foxbat said:
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

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55" is plenty big.
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55" is plenty big.
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And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.
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dishstaller said:
And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.
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I remember buying my 1st Sony .... a whopping Big 27" CRT XBR .... $1200. :)
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Percy Jackson - Disney+


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Still enjoying the show.
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Ive got to find time to get back to it. Watched the first episode and been too busy to squeeze it into out watch schedule.
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
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I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs. 😡
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osu1991 said:
I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years
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That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.
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My wife and I use the same Medicare Advantage plan from United Healthcare. (Yes I have heard the horror stories about Medicare Advantage plans but we have used it for the last 5 years). We are both pretty healthy so it works for us. It costs $0.00 per month for both of us and it pays part of our Medicare part B premium. Next year it will be paying $170 per month of the $220 monthly part B premium for both of us. We also each get $90 per quarter to use on OTC products. $0.00 copay for Dr. visits and $55 copay for specialists. Includes dental and hearing coverage. Never have had an issue with it although I don't really use mine other than for the dental, Part B payments and the OTC benefit as I am a veteran and use the VA for all of my medical needs. I just had a kidney that had a cancer mass removed last month and they allowed me to use a non VA surgeon at a non VA hospital through the VA Community Care program. For all of the doctors visits, exams, tests, surgery, hospital stay, meds etc…was around $60,000 and the the VA paid for it entirely. I did have to pay $16 for the Oxycodone pain pills when I left the hospital that I got from my local CVS instead of waiting for a week for the VA to ship them to me from the VA pharmacy.
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$0.00 copay for Dr. visits
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And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.
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And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.
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You're not wrong that some people treat free visits like a social outing. But it has to be a balance. Put a $100 barrier on a doctor visit and people don't just skip the pointless ones, they skip the important ones too. Then the stuff that would've been a cheap catch at a checkup shows up later in the ER, sicker and way more expensive. The shift we need is from sick care to actual healthcare.
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meStevo said:
But it has to be a balance.
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Unfortunately, humans tend to suck at finding a balance in just about anything.

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They go to the Doctor for everything.
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I see a LOT of that. And yes...they DO go to the doctor for EVERYTHING.

I was sick a couple months ago, either light flu or cold. First thing my Mom asked me when I told her was "You need to go to the doctor". I said WHY......I know what to do....it'll last a few days and I'll be fine.

The biggest problem with paying nothing out of pocket is that people quickly don't want to pay a penny for anything. Had an older customer in the store the other day. He mentioned that he had just come from CVS and I guess he wanted to rant. He said he went to pick up his prescription and "they changed my plan and wanted $4, they used to be free...I told them to stick them somewhere and walked out". BTW, he was in the store buying a new remote. So he HAD money for a remote but not $4 for this medicine that somebody somewhere thought he needed.
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dishstaller said:
Unfortunately, humans tend to suck at finding a balance in just about anything.


I see a LOT of that. And yes...they DO go to the doctor for EVERYTHING.

I was sick a couple months ago, either light flu or cold. First thing my Mom asked me when I told her was "You need to go to the doctor". I said WHY......I know what to do....it'll last a few days and I'll be fine.

The biggest problem with paying nothing out of pocket is that people quickly don't want to pay a penny for anything. Had an older customer in the store the other day. He mentioned that he had just come from CVS and I guess he wanted to rant. He said he went to pick up his prescription and "they changed my plan and wanted $4, they used to be free...I told them to stick them somewhere and walked out". BTW, he was in the store buying a new remote. So he HAD money for a remote but not $4 for this medicine that somebody somewhere thought he needed.
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My prescription before Medicare took over was $30 for 90 days, Medicare took over, now it was $375 last January and $150ish after that 90 days worth.
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dishstaller said:
not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage.
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Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?
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Jimbo said:
My prescription before Medicare took over was $30 for 90 days, Medicare took over, now it was $375 last January and $150ish after that 90 days worth.
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My Ozempic went from almost $400 every four weeks to $11 with a $0 Part D plan. That plan will be $5.63/month in 2027.

Make sure you've shopped around this open enrollment season.
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Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?
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Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.
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dishstaller said:
So he HAD money for a remote but not $4 for this medicine that somebody somewhere thought he needed.
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Sounds like a self correcting situation.
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Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.
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Does the Wind portion cover Hurricanes ?
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Home Theater Geeks 556

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vc6LXyvmmE


Direct YouTube Link - Home Theater Geeks 556
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Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Wisconsin at Iowa, Saturday 10-31, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona St at BYU, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Alabama at LSU, Saturday 11-7, 12:30PM PST, Channel 148-03.
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Problem with Amazon Prime Video

I've been having intermittent problems with Amazon Prime video programs loading using the H3 guide listing. I can get to the program I want to watch, but when I try to view it, it starts to load and then stalls. Eventually, a screen pops up saying "something went wrong, try again later". I've tried rebooting the hopper without success. Sometimes switching the HDMI input on my LG TV works, but not always. I don't have this problem on my phone or computer, so it is not a network or router issue.

I did a quick google search and found that this is a common problem associated with overloading or corruption of the data cache in the Amazon app and the solution is to clear the cache. Easy to do on a computer or phone, but I don't know how to do this on the H3. If anyone a solution or suggestion, I'd appreciate some help. Thanks.
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I gave up trying to watch Prime through my H3 a long time ago.
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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I have a Hopper Plus and no issues either. charlesrshell has both a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and one without, he doesn't have the same issue. Before blaming it on the Hopper Plus, he should see if the problem still exists without the Hopper Plus connected as it could be the Internet connection itself or some setting in the router itself. There is someone in another thread who has EHD issues on the Hopper 3 only setup but does not have the EHD issues on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and he has already tried swapping the EHD and it did not make a difference so like the saying, YMMV.
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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The Roku costs $$$, Hopper Plus is free. That may not be the only costs as it depends if the TV in question still has available HDMI ports and if not, it will require a HDMI switch and HDMI cable which adds more to the cost.

I have a LG 3D OLED Smart TV and I still need either of them because it does not have Android TV built in. Add a Hopper Plus and see if you actually have issues or not as until you actually tried it, it means nothing.
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If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.
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If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.
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Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:
    • TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication
    • TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication
    • TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync
    • UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data
    • UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams
    • UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery
Critical Network & Security Considerations
    • UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.
    Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.

    The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.


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Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:
    • TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication
    • TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication
    • TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync
    • UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data
    • UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams
    • UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery
Critical Network & Security Considerations
    • UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.
    • Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.
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This was for port settings for the switch, not the router.

Originally was recommended to use EDGE vs. Infrastructure, but had to change that back to Infrastructure.

Had to leave STP (Spanning tree protocol) ON, but disable BPDU guard, and also had to disable Non-STP loop protection.

The previous settings were flagging normal dish system packets as a data loop, and fully blocked that port on the UniFI Pro Max 16 POE switch.

These were specific to my managed switch, and may not apply to the OP's issue.
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