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Signalhog
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Need help with a multiswitch task

I have a guy who just bought an extended stay hotel. He wants (And is adamant) a 301 pre-paid receiver in every room for monthly tenants to subscribe and pay for their own programming. He is next to Walmart, so moneypaks should be no problem. Here is what I need:

What Dish/LNB/multiswitch combo should I use to connect all 62 rooms with a 301 receiver? He has already ordered the receivers so I am pressed for the best solution possible.

Thanks in advance, guys!
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So he says

He told me just now that he did contact them. He stated to them that he wanted no part of TV service and that because it is an extended stay facility, the tenant was responsible for their own service. The commercial dept then told him that since he was not interested in MDU (Which I happen to know a good bit about) he would have to leave it up to his tenants to order their own service. He then states to the rep that the local installer told him it would be better to order pre-pay receivers and place one in every room for the tenents to activate at their own leisure. The rep then told him that she didn't think there would be issues as long as he didn't handle any money for the transactions or make any money from the transactions. She referred him to his local dealer who said he could come out and install a dish for every 12 receivers. 6 dishes on the roof would look cool, huh ?

I will call Dish Monday to see what can be done for him and to be sure he is not illegal. If he were installing FTG or the like, I could help him with no problem. This scenario is just a bit weird for me. I DO like his reasoning though. (Mostly because I have seen his tenants) LOL.
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Signalhog said:
he could come out and install a dish for every 12 receivers. 6 dishes on the roof would look cool, huh ?
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Why not use 3 dishes with DP quads and use 16 SW34's (6 on each dish)?
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Mike500
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If you can convince the owner to get only 119, you can use one simple dual lnb legacy dish and a bunch cheap 3x* multiswitches.

If he's using 301's, the same can be done for 119 only with a DishPro single or dual lnb and high performance regular cable splitters.
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Agonizing Fury
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My Best suggestion is two 24" Dishes (Winegard 24" Antenna without a DishPro Dual LNB), and DP Duals on them (one for 110, one for 119) Run two cables from each dish to 4 Sonora Auto Gain Amplifiers (Pal10-T Auto Gain Amplifier). From the Amps, go to 4 separate 8 Way 900 - 2150 MHz Splitters (Sonora HRS8 DBS Satellite 3 Sigma 8 Way Splitter (HRS8) | HRS8 [Sonora] | Sonora HRS8 DBS Satellite 3 Sigma 8 Way Splitter (HRS8)). This will give you 16 119 lines and 16 110 lines. Run to 16 separate non-trunked DP34 switches. This will allow the system to operate even if every receiver is disconnected, and the DP34 switches aren't powered. The Amps will help offset the signal loss from the splitter, and from what I'm assuming is a fairly long cable run to each room. The links I posted are just examples of what I think will work, and I have never done a job like this, but it should work in theory. Each receiver should show a 34 switch with a 119 Feed and 110 Feed (The Splitters/Amps will block the DiSEqC between the 34 switches and the LNBsso they will not be identified as duals, just "FEED") Everyone else, please let me know if you think this will work.
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quite frankly if the guy is as cheap as he sounds, I can't imagine you are going to make anywhere near enough profit on this to merit the work you are going to have to do... especially if the units are not wired already or are wired with RG59.

Throw in the possible legal/ethics issues involved and you may be better just walking away.

Sounds to me like the local dealer figured this out and gave him the 6 dish solution to get the hotel to blow him off instead.
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Rocket69-Thanks!

I called Dish myself to check into the legality and engineering aspect. The SUPER nice lady in the comm dept said that he could save money with a headend, but could do it this way without any legal problems. With regards to the engineering aspect, it looks like Dish agrees with Rocket. They recommend 2 dishes, a 3x6 hub, and several multiswitches. As one of you pointed out, he probably isn't going to spring for the tab, but at least I gave him a great answer! Thanks to everyone for their input. I really should have known that this would look similar to a headend, but the distance between the receivers freaked me out. I am ok now..... LOL

Thanks again everyone.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors
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You're Still A Young Man - Tower Of Power
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No Match, back to:
People Are Strange - The Doors




Isn't Life Strange - The Moody Blues
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MacBreak Weekly 1048

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(Washington, DC) - The U.S. House has passed the AM Radio for Every Vehicle Act, marking a major step forward for broadcasters and listeners who have pushed to keep AM radio available in new cars and
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It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
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Jimbo said:
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
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Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
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dishdude said:
Very rarely listen to FM any more
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
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Apple Event September 2026

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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
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KOQIT receivers

Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
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SkyWatcher57 said:
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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a good surge protector will help to.
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Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
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Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
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Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
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cyberham
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For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
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cyberham said:
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
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Seems like I remember that now, with my V9 I manually entered anyway on 105, easier for me to pick the channel later :)
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NEED SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW FTA BOX

IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
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That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
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That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
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primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
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primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
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Some people just call them power supplies (which really isn't a good fit in this case), some call them "wall adapters" but it's an external power supply or AC adapter that converts (AC) from a wall outlet into low-voltage (DC) that an electronic device needs to run.
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[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.
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techristian said:
...Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality...
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105W has some very strong transponders. I received more than four transponders using a 41-inch dish recently. See here.
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techristian said:
[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.
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The Westwood One Mux on 105W would likely be receivable, has some good music channels on there. It does scan in, but it's more convenient to manually enter the PIDs, check out Lyngsat for the channels: EchoStar 105/SES 11 at 105.0°W - LyngSat

I use a 10 footer (only C-band dish I have), but it's very strong.
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