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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Feb 9, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH NETWORK® LAUNCHES THE CRIME & INVESTIGATION CHANNEL

DISH NETWORK® LAUNCHES THE CRIME & INVESTIGATION CHANNEL

DISH Network Continues to Enhance 100 Percent HD Lineup

Englewood, Colo. – Feb. 3, 2009 – DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH), the nation's third largest pay-TV provider and the digital transition leader, today announced the launch of Crime & Investigation HD in the PlatinumHD – part of DISH Network's TurboHD suite of programming packages, offering the only 100 percent HD services nationwide.

"DISH Network is the only pay-TV provider to offer our customers 100 percent HD programming with our TurboHD packages," said Dave Shull, senior vice president of programming for DISH Network. "With the addition of Crime & Investigation HD, we continue our commitment to enhance our HD offerings while remaining the value leader in pay-TV – offering the lowest all-digital price nationwide."

Crime & Investigation HD offers dramatic and award-winning non-fiction series combined with top caliber off-net series, opening the doors to police departments, crime labs, and prisons to expose the inner workings of the American justice system.

Crime & Investigation HD, DISH Network Ch. 387, is part of the PlatinumHD programming package, available as an add-on to any TurboHD or Classic programming package with HD for $10 per month. DISH Network's TurboHD programming packages currently start at $9.99 per month for six months for new customers, offering over 50 all-HD channels. Classic programming packages also start at $9.99 per month for six months, offering over 100 channels and free HD programming for the first six months.

In order to view HD programming, DISH Network customers will need to upgrade to an HD DVR receiver like the award-winning HD DuoDVR™ ViP® 722. The ViP® 722 is a dual-tuner HD DVR that operates two televisions in separate rooms, one in standard definition and one in HD. The ViP® 722 includes up to 500 hours of recording time, and can pause, rewind and fast forward live TV, allowing DISH Network customers to have ultimate control over their favorite programming.

Qualified new DISH Network customers who sign up with a 24-month commitment will receive over 15 free premium movie channels for three months, a free DVR and free installation (a $49.99 value).

For more information about DISH Network's HD offerings or DVR technology, call 1-800-333-DISH (3474), visit DISH Network - 1.888.825.2557, or visit your local DISH Network retailer.

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flyingsquirrel

Feb 3, 2009

From a marketing standpoint, this seems silly.

We Know that they launched FBC and FNC last night.

We kinda assume that they are going to launch a few other things later this week.

Why not hold off and go with a BIG SPLASH announcement that says:

"Dish Activates new Satellite and XX new HD Channels!"

Also, not mentioning that they took down Smithsonian just begs the question, "Why?".

nlk10010

Feb 3, 2009

flyingsquirrel said:
-snip-
Also, not mentioning that they took down Smithsonian just begs the question, "Why?".

Because Charlie thinks most of his subscribers are idiots and if he doesn't mention the channel(s) he removes then people will think they never were on in the first place.

Look at how he's got us all salivating over the prospect of new HD simply by making a net addition of one channel; i.e. FOXNEWS HD.

Gotta' love him.

Hall

Feb 3, 2009

nlk10010 said:
Because Charlie thinks most of his subscribers are idiots and if he doesn't mention the channel(s) he removes then people will think they never were on in the first place.

If it weren't for the uplink reports, I do wonder how long it would have been before someone noticed that the Smithsonian channel was gone.

JEFFinINDY

Feb 3, 2009

hall said:
If it weren't for the uplink reports, I do wonder how long it would have been before someone noticed that the Smithsonian channel was gone.

+100.

From what I can read here, about a dozen people watched it. A dozen people who love to make lots of posts.

nlk10010

Feb 4, 2009

hall said:
If it weren't for the uplink reports, I do wonder how long it would have been before someone noticed that the Smithsonian channel was gone.

Good question, which applies to any channel Charlie has taken (or will take) down.

Unfortunately, there's no way to tell.

People can speculate, but that's all it would be. For example, I might offer that if Charlie removed Speed only a small fraction of Dish subscribers would notice, or care, and therefore it should go. But I would just be saying that because it makes me feel "warm and fuzzy", not because I had any hard evidence.

Fitzie

Feb 4, 2009

nlk10010 said:
Good question, which applies to any channel Charlie has taken (or will take) down.

Unfortunately, there's no way to tell.

People can speculate, but that's all it would be. For example, I might offer that if Charlie removed Speed only a small fraction of Dish subscribers would notice, or care, and therefore it should go. But I would just be saying that because it makes me feel "warm and fuzzy", not because I had any hard evidence.

That's right, Speed Channel is a niche channel. The only difference betwee that channel and Smithsonian is that the niche is a whole lot bigger.

nlk10010

Feb 4, 2009

Fitzie said:
That's right, Speed Channel is a niche channel. The only difference betwee that channel and Smithsonian is that the niche is a whole lot bigger.

And you know this exactly how? Or is it just that you'd like to believe it?

Even if you were correct (and, again, you've provided no evidence to back up your statement) the niche SPEED occupies could still easily be way too small to justify keeping it on the air.

AdamGott

Feb 4, 2009

JEFFinINDY said:
+100.

From what I can read here, about a dozen people watched it. A dozen people who love to make lots of posts.

Doesn't that seem significant to you? A dozen people out of how many ACTIVE posters? To me that seems to be near the same amount of people that bitched about losing VOOM.

Hall

Feb 5, 2009

Hey, I have watched things on the Smithsonian Channel myself, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't notice it if it were gone. Smithsonian is one of those that was only in the high-300s range, right ? I look for HD channels in the 94xx range myself.

Hall

Feb 5, 2009

nlk10010 said:
And you know this exactly how? Or is it just that you'd like to believe it?

Hmmm, my money says he's a Speed Channel fan...

nlk10010

Feb 5, 2009

hall said:
Hmmm, my money says he's a Speed Channel fan...

Which is fine. No complaint there (although I never watch the channel).

My only objection is piling on those who watched Smithsonian and want to see it back. My other objection is to try to take an opinion, or feeling, and turn it into fact. You really can't draw legitimate inferences from being exposed to a limited group of people.

Frankly, I wasn't a big fan of Smithsonian but I liked having it around.

Assuming the boxes transmit the necessary information, only Charlie knows how many people watch what and only Charlie decides how many have to watch in order for him to carry the channel.

Hall

Feb 9, 2009

nlk10010 said:
Assuming the boxes transmit the necessary information, only Charlie knows how many people watch what and only Charlie decides how many have to watch in order for him to carry the channel.

I've no doubt at all that that data is available to Dish and often used in their favor, especially with 'niche' channels such as Smithsonian.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 6 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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dishstaller

Today at 10:18 AM

Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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savarese04

Today at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

dishdude

6 minutes ago

savarese04 said:
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Juan

Yesterday at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:47 AM

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

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Juan

Yesterday at 1:38 PM

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

telstar_1

Yesterday at 2:22 PM

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

Juan

Yesterday at 3:07 PM

telstar_1 said:
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much

dishstaller

Yesterday at 3:13 PM

Juan said:
.a bag...not much

Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

Juan

Today at 7:13 AM

dishstaller said:
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

NYDutch

Today at 7:44 AM

Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.

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harshness

Today at 9:21 AM

NYDutch said:
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.

Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

Jimbo

Today at 9:27 AM

harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only

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dishstaller

Today at 10:09 AM

Juan said:
but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...

Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you

Juan

37 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Obviously you didn't read my post.....google says a coffee bag weighs half an ounce. But let's say you are correct and it DOES weigh a full ounce, that would still fall 5 ounces shy for Walmart's numbers to match.
You wouldn't happen to be kin to Bernie would you

None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime

dishstaller

13 minutes ago

Juan said:
None of it means a hill of coffee beans...the price is the price...its not going to get any lower...as long as you pay the price on the shelf at the register..there is no crime

I can't BELIEVE this is being such a difficult subject. The issue isn't the price....it's the advertised price per ounce. A lot of shoppers, myself included, use the price per ounce in determining which is the better value....with that number being inaccurate, it can trick someone into thinking that one product cost less per ounce than a competing product. Is this a crime?...above my pay grade. Is it dishonest? Yes.

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dishstaller

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Last reply 18 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Country singer John Anderson died today

He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.

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mikew

Yesterday at 11:01 PM

I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.

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dishstaller

Today at 12:02 AM

mikew said:
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.

That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.

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dfergie

Today at 7:44 AM

R.I.P. I thought he was older…

Mr Tony

36 minutes ago

R.I.P.
Got a few songs on my 'setup' (old cell phone with music) that I can listen to while working

slow_poke_pete

26 minutes ago

RIP

KE4EST

18 minutes ago

dfergie said:
R.I.P. I thought he was older…

Same here. I thought he was older......RIP

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Last reply 27 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Strega

Yesterday at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:02 PM

Strega said:
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

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Bobby

Yesterday at 8:30 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

someone is showing their age

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:38 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:03 PM

I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord

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llokey

Today at 6:51 AM

Bobby said:
In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.

And I kept them working through the ESS offices.

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Bobby

Today at 11:19 AM

llokey said:
And I kept them working through the ESS offices.

The two central offices in the area I worked were actually step by step offices.

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Almighty1

Today at 12:03 PM

dishstaller said:
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord

Speaking about cords, I actually did drop a Trimline phone from probably 3 feet high on the floor when I was about 10 or so and it caused a small crack, this was the one with the modular jacks and it was hooked up with I think a 50 ft or longer RJ11C cable from Radio Shack. I still use the phone today connected to a Obi VoIP adapter and the cord is my custom made 6 position RJ11C, not sure of the official name for it without looking it up and Belden MediaTwist Crescent shaped Cat6+ cable.

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slow_poke_pete

29 minutes ago

Almighty1 said:
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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so that persons in hiding lol :biggrin

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slow_poke_pete

27 minutes ago

remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones

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Last reply Today at 12:39 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

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@99W...... D11, D14
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coolman302003

Yesterday at 6:51 PM

League Pass tonight for example (it is almost a full slate tonight):
Hawks @ Magic (only Hawks feed which is easy to insert since its OTA this season and simulcast across multiple Gray Television markets, Magic signed a non- exclusive streaming deal with DAZN and also OTA)
Bucks @ Wizards (only Wizards feed easy to remap, Bucks are OTA & there own streaming service Bucks+)
Hornets @ Nets (only Nets feed which DirecTV already carries so simply YES remap, Hornets signed non-exclusive streaming deal with DAZN, also OTA)
Bulls @ Raptors (Bulls only feed via CHSN remap, its common that we don't get Raptors feeds that often)
Jazz @ Grizzlies (Jazz only feed OTA easy to insert, Grizzlies signed streaming deal with DAZN)
Pacers @ Pelicans (Pelicans only feed which is OTA easy to insert, Pacers signed streaming deal with DAZN)

Maybe it will change but it looks like DirecTV may only carry DAZN feeds on NBA LP when there is no other option, such as when two teams (either Cavaliers, Pacers, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Spurs) that are both DAZN exclusive are playing each other, we shall see as the season goes on I guess.

This NBA season will be the first in a long time where many League Pass games are carried on feeds DirecTV doesn't normally carry or are only available through OTA spot beams. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, especially whether we eventually get both home and away feeds for these teams out of market again.

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jamieh1

Yesterday at 8:24 PM

Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

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KyL416

Yesterday at 9:33 PM

jamieh1 said:
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.

Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

jamieh1 said:
Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

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cp2k

Today at 10:02 AM

KyL416 said:
If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

I tried this with both the Hurricanes and Hornets since I'm in upstate SC, and wasn't offered any kind of credit by the site. It's not a huge deal to me as I can pick up WSOC/WAXN over the air at my location even though I'm outside the Charlotte market.