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Does anyone have a definitive word on whether the primary receiver on a Dish account is charged a Lease Fee / Receiver Fee? Dish CS told me a bit ago that the $7/mo. Lease Fee for my primary receiver (722) is legit - but I never paid this fee before when my primary receiver was a 508 / 721 / 522.

Dish's own website contradicts itself on this. Here is what is stated in the offer details for the Classic Packages: DISH Network - 1.888.825.2557
Equipment must be returned to DISH Network upon termination of qualifying service. Limit 4 tuners per account. Monthly package price includes an equipment rental fee of $5.00 or $7.00 for first receiver, based on selected model. A monthly equipment rental fee of $5.00 or $7.00 will be charged for each receiver beyond the first, based on selected model. A $5.00/mo. TV2 receiver connection fee applies for each dual-tuner receiver; fee will be waived monthly for each such receiver continuously connected to Customer's phone line.
But on the fees and disclosures page no mention is made whether the primary receiver pays this fee: DISH Network - Customer Service - 1.888.825.2557
Monthly Receiver Charges

Solo, Duo, Solo DVR, DuoDVR Receivers (Standard Definition) $5.00 Solo, Duo, Solo DVR, DuoDVR Receivers (High Definition) $7.00 DISH DVR Service $5.98 TV2 Receiver Connection $5.00
Monthly connection charge for Duo receivers will be waived when your Duo receiver is continuously plugged into a phone or internet connection.
Note that I am talking about Classic pricing, not DDA pricing.
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harshness
You do NOT pay a fee lease or additional receiver fee for the primary receiver as long as you subscribe to a qualifying package. If you do something tricky like subscribing to locals only or some sort of ala carte deal, you may have to pay.

There does seem to be a problem with the website sometimes showing the wrong receiver as primary. My account shows my ViP622 as primary, but I'm being charged for it and not the 508 that I recently swapped to replace my original primary 508.
jrbdmb
You do NOT pay a fee lease or additional receiver fee for the primary receiver as long as you subscribe to a qualifying package. If you do something tricky like subscribing to locals only or some sort of ala carte deal, you may have to pay.

There does seem to be a problem with the website sometimes showing the wrong receiver as primary. My account shows my ViP622 as primary, but I'm being charged for it and not the 508 that I recently swapped to replace my original primary 508.
Glad to see there is agreement on this subject. :eek:

Harsh - Well I'm being charged the fee for both receivers - $7 for the 722 and $5 for the 508. Even though I own the 508 I understand that I have to pay for it one way or another, whether it's called "lease" fee, "extra receiver" fee, or whatever name Dish comes up with next. But I guess I still have a reason to call Dish again about the 722 fee.

BTW Purp, these fees are applied whether the receiver in question is leased or owned. This is why in several threads it has been discussed that there is no value at this point in buying a Dish Network receiver.
Stargazer
If you do not subscribe to a minimal package then they will want their leased receivers back anyways wont they? Don't you have to subscribe to their qualifying package to even be able to continue leasing the receiver? That was the way I always remembered it unless they changed the rules.
jrbdmb
Issue solved (in this case at least) - chat CSR said that the lease fee was part of the Dish'N It Up agreement. I can't remember where I put my copy, but I did find a list of Dish'N It Up rules on a Dish reseller website and it does specify a $7 fee for any added HD receiver.

I'm tempted to try switching my 722 and 508 to make the 508 the primary (and save the $5 receiver fee on it), but since I suspect the 508 will be upgraded soon to a dual tuner model I am going to leave well enogh alone for now.
D
Glad to see there is agreement on this subject. :eek:

Harsh - Well I'm being charged the fee for both receivers - $7 for the 722 and $5 for the 508. Even though I own the 508 I understand that I have to pay for it one way or another, whether it's called "lease" fee, "extra receiver" fee, or whatever name Dish comes up with next. But I guess I still have a reason to call Dish again about the 722 fee.

BTW Purp, these fees are applied whether the receiver in question is leased or owned. This is why in several threads it has been discussed that there is no value at this point in buying a Dish Network receiver.

Correct. And considering how expensive the DVR's MSRP is and the fact that you do want to trade-up to the latest and greatest as time passes, there is absolutely no value to owning. However, if a sub wants more than the 4 leased tuners that Dish will provide for lease, then owning is your only option in that case. Some people think it is still the 1990's when boxes were simple and state of the art for years. This is no longer the case. I have a great need for the 922 DVR Duo with Sling Loaded, and I will be happy to exchange the 722 for it.
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Does anyone have a definitive word on whether the primary receiver on a Dish account is charged a Lease Fee / Receiver Fee? Dish CS told me a bit ago that the $7/mo. Lease Fee for my primary receiver (722) is legit - but I never paid this fee before when my primary receiver was a 508 / 721 / 522.

Dish's own website contradicts itself on this. Here is what is stated in the offer details for the Classic Packages: DISH Network - 1.888.825.2557
But on the fees and disclosures page no mention is made whether the primary receiver pays this fee: DISH Network - Customer Service - 1.888.825.2557
Note that I am talking about Classic pricing, not DDA pricing.

I was being charged $7 for a 622, only receiver on the acct; got it July of 2006, figgered I had paid enough. Couldn't get csr's to waive the fee so I sent an email to the ceo address. Dish sent me a replacement 622, I sent the existing one back.
Yeah, if money wasn't so tight I would have upgraded to a 722, for the extra recording capacity, but just couldn't swing the $75 at this time. I thought it was kinda cheesy to have to go thru the trouble of swapping the receivers out (plus costing Dish the shipping charges both ways) but I guess that's the only way they could keep their books straight. Here's my email correspondence with them.
I didn't have to agree to a commitment (am not under contract at this time)


This is the ceo reply:
Subject: RE: 622 lease fee
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:02:55 -0700
From: xxxxx@Dishnetwork.com
To: xxxxxxx@hotmail.com

Dear Mr. xxxxxxx



Thank you for your email and bringing your concern to our attention.







You upgraded to your current HD-DVR receiver at a time when all upgraded receivers were assessed a leased receiver fee regardless if they were the only receiver on the account or not. I have requested to have our back office promotion team make an exception to waive the leased receiver fee but that request has been denied. I have been advised that the fee is a valid fee and cannot be waived. The only way for us to have the fee waived permanently would be to have the receiver replaced under our current upgrade procedures. I would be willing to replace the receiver at no cost to you with the same model. We would be able to ship you a replacement receiver that would not be assessed the leased receiver fee. Please let me know if this is an acceptable resolution for you and confirm the shipping address that you would like the replacement receiver shipped to. We thank you for your patience in this matter and DISH Network appreciates your business.



I apologize for any inconvenience that this may have caused you and please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.



Thanks,



Gregory xxxxxx

DISH Network L.L.C.

Executive Communications

Phone:

xxxxxxxl@dishnetwork.com



This was my original email to ceo:

From: xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:09 PM
To: CEO
Subject: 622 lease fee



Hello, my acct # is xxxxxxxxx; have a leased 622 receiver, only rec on the acct. I've been paying the lease fee (and also paid the $199 upgrade fee for the 622) since around July 2006, can you help me by not charging the lease fee from now on? I think this is a reasonable request.
Regards, xxxxxx


PS: I asked for this lease fee removal from the live chat the other day, the cs rep wasn't able to help me, said I should call the Dish main #; I've had language/communication issues when talking to the overseas csr's in the past.
MikeD-C05
I own all of my receivers from DISH and always have ,except for the one time I leased a new 522 to see how the name based recording worked. I then traded it back in and bought my own hd receivers. I trade all of my receivers into dishdepot.com for credit towards the newest receivers. Mark is great to work with and there is no tax on any receiver if you DON'T live in Florida where dishdepot is located. There is no commitment with owned receivers and I can sub to any programming or not .
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
rvvaquero
If Musk did acquire DISH, he would just convert it to use his own satellites to deliver it. Might be easier than creating a new startup. Change my dish out to one which connects to Starlink? Who knows?
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I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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T
One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):

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One Removed:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.

Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
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Three new Bonus View channels today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
T
Four Bonus View channels removed today:

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Why all the changes?
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Why all the changes?
I guess the Bonus View world is very dynamic.

And here's two more changes for you:
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zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:
  • Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
  • Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
    • 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
    • 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
    • 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
    • 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
    • 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
    • 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
  • During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
  • Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
  • Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
  • There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
    • At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
    • At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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zippyfrog
Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now. TP 02, 04, 06, 08, 10 were all functioning as Spotbeams as of last week, but now they are ConUS.

This means all 21 transponders that Dish has access to at 119 are now ConUS.
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Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now.
Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?
zippyfrog
Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?
Nope - TP 1-13 are still ConUS on 110. Which is crazy...there are so many different spotbeams on the new 110 satellite compared to the older 110 or 119. Now, someone can correct me if I am wrong on this - but aren't there two satellites at 110 right now? If so, it looks like TP 1-13 are coming from the old satellite at 110 and 14 onward are spotbeams on the new satellite.
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Now, someone can correct me if I am wrong on this - but aren't there two satellites at 110 right now?
Hopefully nelson61 can chime in on this one, because I'm not sure, either.
I guess the thing I'm really perplexed about, is if there are NO more locals - at least on spotbeams - on 119, then how DID they cram ALL the locals on 110 & NOT have ALL those x-ponders in SB mode by now?
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zippyfrog
Hopefully nelson61 can chime in on this one, because I'm not sure, either.
I guess the thing I'm really perplexed about, is if there are NO more locals - at least on spotbeams - on 119, then how DID they cram ALL the locals on 110 & NOT have ALL those x-ponders in SB mode by now?

Here was a comment by nelson61 last year:
EchoStar 23 (Conus beam) will still be at 110W so there can be some Conus beam coverage from 110W depending on how many transponders they use for the spots.
In the same thread, he gave all the kml files for the spotbeams to put on Google Earth, and it looks like there are a lot more spotbeams per transponder available than the old satellite. My gut is that there is just a more technilogically advanced satellite, and can handle more channels.

I would love an analysis of how many channels could be fit on all the spots!
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meStevo
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Foxbat
Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.


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edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
  • All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
Foxbat
Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
Foxbat
Looks like Episode 55 is over at 09:00 HST, just under six hours. The USGS said the fountains reached 720' or 220 meters.
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The USGS Kīlaeua Webcam #1 has been showing overflows and doming from the North vent overnight. Maybe the volcanic plumbing has settled back into its two-three week cycle of fountaining?

But I do miss the little cinder cone that broke up in the last episode.
Foxbat
Sorry, I should have posted these earlier:

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We're still waiting on the start of Episode 56.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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The Saints Are Coming - U2
dishstaller
Coming Back to Life - Pink Floyd
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Echos - Pink Floyd
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Echoes in the Rain - Enya
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Fool in the Rain - Led Zeppelin
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dishstaller
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Now first, I'll mention that the area of FL I live in has extremely high humidity and not a lot of wind so things don't dry out very well for extended periods of time.
I'm in the process of tearing down and rebuilding a pergola with a surrounding deck that I built 9 yrs ago. 90% of the deck screws are just sheering off at the head because the screws rusted out. These are the deck screws you buy in the 25 lb box at your lumber yard. Very annoying. So I just ordered some 316L stainless steel screws to use for when I go to rebuild it.
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AZ.
AZ.
Now first, I'll mention that the area of FL I live in has extremely high humidity and not a lot of wind so things don't dry out very well for extended periods of time.
I'm in the process of tearing down and rebuilding a pergola with a surrounding deck that I built 9 yrs ago. 90% of the deck screws are just sheering off at the head because the screws rusted out. These are the deck screws you buy in the 25 lb box at your lumber yard. Very annoying. So I just ordered some 316L stainless steel screws to use for when I go to rebuild it.
Screws are all crap, soft and useless! Sick of going through 3 to get one not to break, strip or shear! I aint that strong in my old age!
T
Well, isn't removal of screws intrinsically much tougher than drive-in, simply because over time they become more adhered to the wood, whether or not they actively rust? Possibly there could be less of that effect with stainless.
dishstaller
Well, isn't removal of screws intrinsically much tougher than drive-in, simply because over time they become more adhered to the wood, whether or not they actively rust?
I have seen that happen that not in this case. I had also used some screws from an old box I had that I needed to use up....didn't think much of it at the time. ALL of THOSE screws came out perfectly and had virtually no rust on them. The ones that you find at your lumber yard....those with the orange snap on lids were mostly rust. The problem with the heads sheering off was that I had to get my crowbar and pry each board up one joist at the time. Took a simple job and made it 1000% harder.

As for adhering to the wood...true story. Back when hurricane Michael hit, it almost took the weather vane off of the old milk barn behind my parent's house. I climbed up on the roof and only one nail was still holding it. Grabbed my hammer and tried to pull it out...wasn't budging. Grabbed a short crowbar (all I had access to) wouldn't budge. Ended up cutting the stupid nail so I could get the weather vane. Barn was built in the late 40s, I guess the nail had become one with the pine lumber used to build the barn.
osu1991
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Yep....looking forward to it.
teachsac
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Bruce
AMC+ is on sale for $40 for the year, the no commercials plan.

For basically $3.34 a month, thought I would give it a try again.

Today is the last day for the deal.
R
AMC+ is on sale for $40 for the year, the no commercials plan.

For basically $3.34 a month, thought I would give it a try again.

Today is the last day for the deal.
Thanks for spending my $$. I figured I would try it also.
navychop
Hmmmm.
Jimbo
We should be coming into the Streaming Deals time of year :)

I will be looking for Yearly deals, not the 7 day trial or a 1 month deal like we had the last year or so.
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I just managed to get 30% on Paramount Plus Commercial Free Yearly ... total was $99.
I haven't gotten the 50% off deal in a few years, so when she said $99, I thought that was a pretty good deal, that includes Showtime, which I rarely watch, but its there .
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