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dalebrow

Last reply Apr 8, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

vip222 versus vip222k

Hi all,long time reader first time poster. I have had dish for a little over a month now and have had a lot of problems. I have went through two vip222k receivers with problems, too many to mention. Well last sat. a tech came out and replaced the vip222k with a vip222. I asked him about that and he said that was ok they are the same. I guess what I am asking, are they the same? It seems like since he insalled the 222 all my sd channels on tv 2 are jumpy. Thanks for any help because I am getting a little frustrated with all the problems.

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DishSubLA

Apr 6, 2009

I have both, and I have to say the 222K has fewer problems than the 222. No, the 222 and the 222K are NOT the same. However, their differences to the customer in actual use may be minimal to significant, depending upon each customer's needs. Here are the differences:

1. 222 has 1 built-in OTA tuner. 222K has NO built-in OTA tuner. However, you may purchase the the OTA module for this unit for about $29.00. The module will provide 2 OTA tuners using one cable-in. Also, a TV RF output channel 3/4 is also part of the module.

2. 222K allows for TV2 to access the OTA tuner. This can be a significant feature for some people. 222 OTA access is limited to TV1 only.

3. Others have posted that the 222K software is based on the upcoming 922,

4. 222K has a different chipset from the 222.

To some, the differences above are significant, as some folks want or need the 2 OTA capability and not the single OTA and need to access it from TV2. To others, it makes no difference as they may never use the OTA tuners.

Although the installer said the were they same, he may well have known about the differences, especially the potential number of OTA tuners, but he doesn't want to get bogged down by a sub who isn't getting the "same" box, who may in fact prefer the 222K option of 2 OTA tuners. Saying they were the same makes his job, for himself, easier, hoping you don't know that in fact you are getting a different box.

jsq

Apr 6, 2009

dalebrow said:
Hi all,long time reader first time poster. I have had dish for a little over a month now and have had a lot of problems. I have went through two vip222k receivers with problems, too many to mention. Well last sat. a tech came out and replaced the vip222k with a vip222. I asked him about that and he said that was ok they are the same. I guess what I am asking, are they the same? It seems like since he insalled the 222 all my sd channels on tv 2 are jumpy. Thanks for any help because I am getting a little frustrated with all the problems.

I had the same jumpy SD problem with my 222 when it was installed in November. I lucked out and the tech who came out on the service call, only had 222K's on the truck so I got one of those, and all has been fine since.

dalebrow

Apr 6, 2009

Thanks for the quick replies. I think I will call dish and try to get the 222k back, and buy the ota module because I would like to be able to watch ota on tv2.Thanks again.

jscud

Apr 8, 2009

DishSubLA said:
4. 222K has a different chipset from the 222.

Does that include the OTA tuner ? I would like to know if the 222k OTA tuner works any better than the 222 OTA tuner.

John

Jim5506

Apr 8, 2009

IIRC the 222K uses the same OTA module as the 722K.

The OTA tuner module evidently has an internal splitter for the two OTA tuners and nets a resultant loss of signal.

Many have reported the 222K/722K OTA module is considerably weaker at capturing OTA signals that the 722 or the 222.

Might necessitate a pre-amp of some kind.

mheisen

Last reply Today at 3:43 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

Yesterday at 6:11 PM

Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:38 AM

Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:43 AM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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He’s forever known for playing Jean-Luc Picard and Charles Xavier, whom he “admired for their morality, for their kindness, for their sensitivity, for their compassion.”

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