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deronrb

Last reply Jun 15, 2009 · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

Cannot pick up VHF stations... suggestions?

I was happily awaiting the switchover... Before the switchover, I was able to pick up all channels in Chicago except for CBS. After the switch, I now cannot pick up CBS or ABC (channels 2.1 (broadcasting on channel 12) and 7.1,.2,.3 (broadcasting on channel 7)).

I consider myself pretty tech savvy, but I cannot figure out how to get them to come in better.

My zip is 60626. I live <9 mi from the broadcast towers for all stations. All UHF stations come in great. I've been using a Terk indoor antenna that claims:

Compact indoor antenna receives both UHF and VHF local HD reception of channels 2-69 for enjoying high-definition television programming without cable or satellite HDTV service; high back-to-front ratio rejects unwanted signals

I live in a first-floor condo and an outdoor antenna is not an option. If I extend the rabbit ears to various lengths and twist the antenna in various directions, I find sometimes I can SOMEWHAT get channel 2, other ways I can SOMEWHAT get channel 7. No one way can I pick up both, and when I twist it, I lose most of the UHF stations. I have done testing in various rooms, closer to the outside south-facing wall but still no luck. Is there a better antenna I should get to pick up the VHF along with the UHF?

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boba

Jun 15, 2009

You are indoors
You are on the first floor
You are close to broadcast towers where signal is strong
Your broadcast is subject to multipath interference.

jayn_j

Jun 15, 2009

Look at the multichannel news sources for broadcast. There was a report this morning on reception problems in downtown Chicago, especially with WLS ABC-7 in downtown.

WLS is asking the FCC for consideration on the issue.

Tower Guy

Jun 15, 2009

deronrb said:
Is there a better antenna I should get to pick up the VHF along with the UHF?

I have heard good reports from users of the Winegard SS-3000.

deronrb

Jun 15, 2009

Yes, I know...

boba said:
You are indoors
You are on the first floor
You are close to broadcast towers where signal is strong
Your broadcast is subject to multipath interference.

Yes, boba, I mentioned some of these problems and I already know that I have a problem... hence I posted... So no suggestions to fix my problems?

Thanks, Jayn_J and Tower Guy. I'll take a look and see what I see!

TNGTony

Jun 15, 2009

Your problem is strictly "multipath"(ghosting). Try putting the VHF elements ALL THE WAY DOWN, crossed in an X behind the UHF element relative to the direction of the antennas.

This is what did it for me for a similar issue with ABC 12 here in Cincinnati. The signal was very strong and so was the "echo" causing multipath. Doing this cut down the signal strength enough for the automatic filtering on the Dish tuner to figure things out.

BTW I have an RCA amplified rabbit ear antenna on the ground floor of a ranch house on the opposite side from the transmission towers (local Cincinnati). This is the Dayton side of the house and now I can get all the Dayton locals as well as all the Cinti locals including the LP WOTH LD and the relatively weak WCVN Covington.

See ya
Tony

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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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harshness

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They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.

The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.

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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

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Yesterday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Yesterday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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