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TG Daily (c) - That new Xbox for 2010 … real or fake news?

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By Wolfgang Gruener
Friday, June 19, 2009 12:22



Opinion – It appears that there has been a lot of chatter about what Steve Ballmer told an audience of 1500 Chicago executives yesterday at a luncheon of The Executives Club of Chicago. Ballmer mentioned a new Xbox for 2010. Whether it will be a new SKU or a Project Natal-equipped device, we have no idea. What we do know, however, that it is too early to speculate. Any such speculation should be taken with with a grain of salt at this time.

So, you don't expect anything dramatic to happen when you report on a brief note from an executive about a new product, especially if it is just an announcement note and then you are suddenly confronted with rumors and speculations that clearly get out of hand.

We are grateful that our colleagues at Cnet, PC World and some smaller outlets such as Escapist Magazine are picking up our stories but I would just wish they would leave the stories as they are and not add more speculation than is necessary and I just don't appreciate being lectured by those who have to speculate. I am talking about the Global Leaders luncheon with Steve Ballmer yesterday in Chicago, during which the executive announced "a new Xbox for 2010." There was no further detail other than an integrated camera, which could point to a new SKU or simply the recently introduced Project Natal device – yes, Keane, that news also has landed here and we are not living under a rock in the middle of some corn field in Illinois.

Ballmer did not elaborate on this device, while he did talk quite a bit about a natural user interface that would recognize touch, voice and looks. And that technology is very, very close to being released, apparently, at least according to Ballmer. And, in the light of his preceding statement, I would be comfortable saying that this referred to the 2010 date.

In this view, I would have to disagree with Major Nelson's post from yesterday:

"To clarify what Steve said earlier today....
A few people have emailed me regarding something Steve Ballmer said earlier today about a new Xbox coming in 2010. As the Xbox team stated at E3 two weeks ago, we are not even halfway through the current console generation lifecycle and believe Xbox 360 will be the entertainment center in the home for long into the next decade. Project Natal will be an important part of this platform, but we have not confirmed a launch date at this time."

Sorry, guys, this one did slip out. Dear Major, I have no idea why there needs to always be a strategy to indicate someone made up a story simply because the story was not created in a corporate communications meeting.

This whole event seems to resemble a story from last year, when we reported that the "next" Photoshop would be called Photoshop CS4 and that it will have GPU-accelerated software components, based on statements made at an event. We were accused of the same made-up-story crap, excuse my choice of words here, by Adobe back then as were accused by Microsoft now. Back then, we were chastised by Adobe, Photoshop enthusiasts and other media and in the end it turned out that we were 100% on target.

If Steve Ballmer was not entirely delusional yesterday (it was a hot, humid day in Chicago yesterday, though), then we will see a major Xbox announcement in 2010. I'd actually like to ask Major Nelsen to check with Steve Ballmer what was said and what not, since I believe Major Nelson was not present at the event. I triple-checked with a few friends who were sitting in the audience as well and it seemed pretty clear to them that a new Xbox is coming in 2010, after what Ballmer had said. But then, yes, it was a hot, humid day and we all may have been a bit delusional during an admittedly fantastic lunch.

My take-away from the Xbox 360 news yesterday? Don't get too hung up on whether it is a new casing for the Xbox 360 or a major add-on. Perhaps Ballmer referred to an entirely new Xbox. Perhaps he referred to Natal. However, even if he only referred to natal – and this would be an interesting hiccup for Ballmer - it is a new approach, an evolution of the Xbox 360. And that evolution may be so significant that it does change the user scenario for the device. What that will be, however, I leave up to you and the speculation of some of my colleagues. What you now know, however, is that Microsoft is planning something major for the Xbox platform next year.

Not more and not less.
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Ramy
It won't be a new new one, it will just have that Natal packaged with it.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
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.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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