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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I need three new receivers for Direct TV, nothing fancy just some basic reliable boxes for guest room, basement, and gym. Should I just call DTV or am I better to buy my receivers elsewhere (ebay?). I may go for two standard receivers and one HD DVR for my main system and then I can move my standard HD receiver elsewhere. Your thoughts and recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave
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I signed a 2yr contract in 2007 when I got my first mpeg-4 HD receiver and dish. I've added 3 more HD receivers since then.

I called today was was told I'm still under the 2007 contract.

I've been a customer since 1995 anyway so it's no big deal, can't get cable or OTA ( one channel ) where I live.

It's just easier to drive 32 miles and pick up a receiver than going through the BS of ordering one through DirecTV. :)
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You can acutally BUY the different dvr's and recievers ( you HAVE to do this thru DTV itself) but there is one catch: they cost way more. For example when you go to BB and buy (lease) the basic reciever its 69.00 but to fully purchase it, it will cost you 369.00. The same is true for the hdtv reciever. The lease price at BB is 99.00, to fully purchase it, its 399.00 and last but not least to buy the hdtv dvr like the hr23 the lease price at BB is 199.00, the full purchase price is 499.00. If you all havnt noticed something here, DTV charges you $300.00 on top of the lease price. They copied off the cell phone companies where you can buy a cell phone for a cheap price but you're also stuck on a contract committment or pay another 200.00 and not be stuck in a contract. The same thing is also true when it comes to fully purchasing the recievers/dvrs from DTV. If you do pay the full price then you're NOT stuck in any of those stupid contract committments. Once again to actually BUY the boxes you have to go thru DTV themselves. All the boxes at the retail outlets like BB are LEASE ONLY. I already had talked to several DTV CSR's about this because I plan to buy my new hdtv dvrs just so Im not stuck in any of those contract committments plus I prefer to own my boxes anyways than pay for a box then have tp turn it back to DTV sometime later and not get nothing back if the time came I had to shut off DTV. I personally think the lease crap is a rip off. They want to trap people in those contracts particularly is all thats about.It isnt worth paying a "upfront cost" at the retail store and then later have to turn the box back to DTV since they still actually own the box and not get anything back. Wished DTV would go back to the way they used to be!
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I signed a 2yr contract in 2007 when I got my first mpeg-4 HD receiver and dish. I've added 3 more HD receivers since then.

I called today was was told I'm still under the 2007 contract.

I've been a customer since 1995 anyway so it's no big deal, can't get cable or OTA ( one channel ) where I live.

It's just easier to drive 32 miles and pick up a receiver than going through the BS of ordering one through DirecTV. :)


Plus if you buy locally, you can get a NEW one vs. getting whatever D* decides to send you.

OP, if you want to get the best price I know of on a NEW HR-2x unit, check out Costco. Yes, they extend your contract by 2 years, however, Costco warrants the units so you can skip the monthly maint plan from D* and if you have any problems, you call the Costco line and let them deal with D* for you. That is one fine option, hehehe, Costco tends to get some action for you and they have people that can speak English. :D

Our local Costco was selling the H2x HD receivers as well, but when I was there the other day, they didn't have any on a pallet as they usually do, so would check in advance before making a drive to pick up either kind of unit.

As for the SD devices, pick them up at yard sales or flea markets. We sold a ton of them at the last few yard sales for the animal shelter here for no more than 1$ / apiece with remote, so they are cheap. If you bought a few of them, one or more would be able to be used. There are some of us who still have the old Hughes / RCA / Sony boxes we bought long ago (more than 10 years), so they do exist and even work. Most of them are showing up at yard sales now, though. :)
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You can acutally BUY the different dvr's and recievers ( you HAVE to do this thru DTV itself) but there is one catch: they cost way more. For example when you go to BB and buy (lease) the basic reciever its 69.00 but to fully purchase it, it will cost you 369.00. The same is true for the hdtv reciever. The lease price at BB is 99.00, to fully purchase it, its 399.00 and last but not least to buy the hdtv dvr like the hr23 the lease price at BB is 199.00, the full purchase price is 499.00. If you all havnt noticed something here, DTV charges you $300.00 on top of the lease price. They copied off the cell phone companies where you can buy a cell phone for a cheap price but you're also stuck on a contract committment or pay another 200.00 and not be stuck in a contract. The same thing is also true when it comes to fully purchasing the recievers/dvrs from DTV. If you do pay the full price then you're NOT stuck in any of those stupid contract committments. Once again to actually BUY the boxes you have to go thru DTV themselves. All the boxes at the retail outlets like BB are LEASE ONLY. I already had talked to several DTV CSR's about this because I plan to buy my new hdtv dvrs just so Im not stuck in any of those contract committments plus I prefer to own my boxes anyways than pay for a box then have tp turn it back to DTV sometime later and not get nothing back if the time came I had to shut off DTV. I personally think the lease crap is a rip off. They want to trap people in those contracts particularly is all thats about.It isnt worth paying a "upfront cost" at the retail store and then later have to turn the box back to DTV since they still actually own the box and not get anything back. Wished DTV would go back to the way they used to be!

Your prices are out of date, solid signal sells the HD-DVR pro (which requires no lease) for 399. DIRECTV HR21PRO 500 GB HD DVR PRO Receiver for Ka-Ku Band (HR21PRO) | HR21PRO [DIRECTV]

No sense in overstating the prices, they are bad enough as is.
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Excuse me but all the prices I quoted were given to me directly thru DTV CSR's two months ago. Anyways the hdtv dvr you see on solidsignal is one of the older versions. I plan to buy a hr23 rather than the older ones which I heard had troubles. I did alot of checking things out on this issue ahead of time.
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Excuse me but all the prices I quoted were given to me directly thru DTV CSR's two months ago. Anyways the hdtv dvr you see on solidsignal is one of the older versions. I plan to buy a hr23 rather than the older ones which I heard had troubles. I did alot of checking things out on this issue ahead of time.


Whatever. :D

Since D* has never sold anything in the HR line other than the one SS has, I find it interesting that they are making a special case for you and selling you and only you a model that is not available to the masses.

Maybe the CSR was offering you special higher prices since they were offering you special models? That would explain it, as everyone knows that everybody likes paying higher prices.


Note to OP: The "HR21 Pro" model sold at SS, weakknees, etc. is the current model and is not the same as a "standard" HR21.
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I was talking to them again yesterday and I guess I learned when it comes to buying the boxes they dont do you any differently than they do the customers who have leased boxes. I mean when I do call them to order the dvr it turns out its just like the leased boxes where you dont know which one they are going to sell you. It could be either the hr22 or hr23 it turns out.What I was talking about on the old hdtv dvrs was I used to hear they were very good about crashing etc all the time back then and even when BB used to have those particular ones, I would read many comments from other customers complaining about these problems. To tell you the truth the DTV CSR's will not ever tell you that you can acutally buy the diffferent dvr's or recievers. Its a case where you have to be the one to say it. They would rather trap you in those damned contract committments ( by getting you the leased boxes). Once you do mention it to them then they will tell you all those prices I shared with you all. Just one of those things they dont want the masses to know lol
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
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Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
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It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
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Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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I truly hope you are right.
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