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vmike
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I am a new Dish customer as of yesterday. I have a vip722kdvr and a vip222k. I have a broadband connection to the 722dvr. It says it is on line and shows an IP address. I have downloaded free movies from dish online with it last night. When I go to the Dish web site and "Dish Remote Access", it says my receiver is "off line".

I called dish last night, the tech? said it was on their end and would be fixed shortly. This morning still shows off line, called again today and after resetting the receiver and my router and so on nothing. Changed cables from router to 722 and same thing. It says it's "online" but they don't. They said "call your ISP" . I have RR and good speeds and good connections, always...

Any one else have this problem? or ideas?

Been watching this sight for a while and finally decided to jump on the Dish wagon...
Thanks,
MV
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C
622 works, new 722 doesn't

I've been on remote access with my 622 since beta and it works fine. I got a new 722k yesterday and it starts with R01 and it will not work. Looks like another problem dish can't fix.
Bobby
I've been on remote access with my 622 since beta and it works fine. I got a new 722k yesterday and it starts with R01 and it will not work. Looks like another problem dish can't fix.


Go here: http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/181401-poll-does-remote-access-work-your-722k.html

Then go to post #12 and your fix is there.....
B
Official Response: DISH Remote Access issue with ViP722k (R01) is software problem.

Equipment: ViP722k DVR-HD (R01)
Receiver CA ID: R01 XXXX XXXX-20
Smart Card CA ID: S19 XXXX XXXX-19
Software Version: L652
Router: Linksys WRT54G Wireless G (hard wired)
ISP: Comcast
Phone: None
Customer Type: Direct DISH Customer (Non-Bundled)
Issue: DISH Remote Access web page registers Vip722k DVR-HD (R01) as "Offline" while the on screen menu confirms unit is "Online".

I've been dealing with this issues since my initial install on 7/18/2008. After blasting off several angry emails this past Friday, I received multiple responses this morning acknowledging the fact that this is indeed a software issue at DISH that affects users with the ViP722k DVR (R01) and NOT an ISP issue. I'll be waiting on them now to fix it and will post again when/if resolved. See below for copy of the email thread with DISH responses.
Dear Mr. Vxxxxxxxx,

Thank you for your email. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thank you for providing the information for our engineering department. They are currently working towards a resolution for this issue. Unfortunately, we do not have a status report for this situation at this time. Generally these issues are resolved via software information sent directly to the receiver. Please remember to turn off your receiver when you are not watching TV, so that it can receive the update when it becomes available.
We realize that in today's competitive world you have a choice in services. We thank you for your continued support, and your business is greatly appreciated and we thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any further questions or concerns, please refer to XXXXXX or reply to this email.
DISH Network is committed to providing world class customer service to our customers. In an effort to continually improve our services, we ask that you take time to complete this short survey to let us know how we are doing. We appreciate your time in evaluating our performance.

Click on the link below to start the survey: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Sincerely,
Lxxxx S. SM5
DISH Network Technical E-care

** Please include all previous correspondence when replying. **

-----original message-----

Dear Lxxxx,

Acct: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
You requested "Receiver CA ID R00" but my receiver is an "R01" model not "R00". There is growing speculation online that this is part of the problem. The information you requested is below. I've also attahced a screen shot of my System Information for verification.

Model ID: ViP722k DVR-HD
Software Version: L652
Receiver CA ID: R01 XXXX XXXX-20
Smart Card CA ID: S19 XXXX XXXX-19
When do you expect this issue will be resolved?

Regards,
Bxxx Vxxxxxxxx

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [SPAM] RE: Technical Support, xxxxxxxxxx
From: "Tech" <Tech@dishnetwork.com>
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009 10:49 pm
To: <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>


Dear Mr. Vxxxxxxxx,

Thank you for your email. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Our engineering department is aware of this issue. It has been determined the issue is software related and we are actively working on a resolution. To further assist in a speedy resolution, please reply with the information requested below. This information will go directly to our engineering department. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused and appreciate your assistance.

How long have you had this issue?
Please gather the following information from your receiver:
1. Press the Menu button on your remote control
• Select System Setup
• Select Installation
• Select System information
2. Please collect the following information:
• Model ID
• Software Version
• Receiver CA ID R00
• Smart Card CA ID S00 or S19

We realize that in today's competitive world you have a choice in services. We thank you for your continued support, and your business is greatly appreciated and we thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any further questions or concerns, please refer to xxxxxxxxxxxx or reply to this email.

DISH Network is committed to providing world class customer service to our customers. In an effort to continually improve our services, we ask that you take time to complete this short survey to let us know how we are doing. We appreciate your time in evaluating our performance.

Click on the link below to start the survey: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sincerely,

Lxxxx S. SM5
DISH Network Technical E-care

** Please include all previous correspondence when replying. **

-----original message-----

BxxxxVxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : DISH Remote Access web page says my 722K DVR is "Offline" but the on screen menu says it is "Online". I am finding allot o chatter online that the 722k DVRs that begin with a serial number of "R01" (which mine is) has issues with the DISH Remote Access website. I've spent nearly an hour on the phone with a DISH rep already with no insight to the cause or a solution. I've been cut off by Jxxxxxx P during an online chat a few minutes ago claiming I was unresponsive which is not true. She didn't even give me enough time to type in my 16 digit account number. I am really getting aggravated with your service and support. I am not even close to being %100 satisfied. You advertise these great features that do not work! I will cancel my service for Direct TV and tell all my online friends and fans why, if someone does not rectify this ongoing complaint.

Sincerely,

Bxxxx Vxxxxxxxxxxxx
​
BTW: I do not have any online fans and few friends but I have heard a comedian use the approach on "glamazon.com" with great affect : )
B
Equipment: ViP722k DVR-HD (R01)
Receiver CA ID: R01 XXXX XXXX-20
Smart Card CA ID: S19 XXXX XXXX-19
Software Version: L652
Router: Linksys WRT54G Wireless G (hard wired)
ISP: Comcast
Phone: None
Customer Type: Direct DISH Customer (Non-Bundled)
Issue: DISH Remote Access web page registers Vip722k DVR-HD (R01) as "Offline" while the on screen menu confirms unit is "Online".

I've been dealing with this issues since my initial install on 7/18/2008. After blasting off several angry emails this past Friday, I received multiple responses this morning acknowledging the fact that this is indeed a software issue at DISH that affects users with the ViP722k DVR (R01) and NOT an ISP issue. I'll be waiting on them now to fix it and will post again when/if resolved. See below for copy of the email thread with DISH responses.
Dear Mr. Vxxxxxxxx,

Thank you for your email. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thank you for providing the information for our engineering department. They are currently working towards a resolution for this issue. Unfortunately, we do not have a status report for this situation at this time. Generally these issues are resolved via software information sent directly to the receiver. Please remember to turn off your receiver when you are not watching TV, so that it can receive the update when it becomes available.
We realize that in today's competitive world you have a choice in services. We thank you for your continued support, and your business is greatly appreciated and we thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any further questions or concerns, please refer to XXXXXX or reply to this email.
DISH Network is committed to providing world class customer service to our customers. In an effort to continually improve our services, we ask that you take time to complete this short survey to let us know how we are doing. We appreciate your time in evaluating our performance.

Click on the link below to start the survey: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Sincerely,
Lxxxx S. SM5
DISH Network Technical E-care

** Please include all previous correspondence when replying. **

-----original message-----

Dear Lxxxx,

Acct: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
You requested "Receiver CA ID R00" but my receiver is an "R01" model not "R00". There is growing speculation online that this is part of the problem. The information you requested is below. I've also attahced a screen shot of my System Information for verification.

Model ID: ViP722k DVR-HD
Software Version: L652
Receiver CA ID: R01 XXXX XXXX-20
Smart Card CA ID: S19 XXXX XXXX-19
When do you expect this issue will be resolved?

Regards,
Bxxx Vxxxxxxxx

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [SPAM] RE: Technical Support, xxxxxxxxxx
From: "Tech" <Tech@dishnetwork.com>
Date: Sun, August 02, 2009 10:49 pm
To: <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>


Dear Mr. Vxxxxxxxx,

Thank you for your email. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Our engineering department is aware of this issue. It has been determined the issue is software related and we are actively working on a resolution. To further assist in a speedy resolution, please reply with the information requested below. This information will go directly to our engineering department. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused and appreciate your assistance.

How long have you had this issue?
Please gather the following information from your receiver:
1. Press the Menu button on your remote control
• Select System Setup
• Select Installation
• Select System information
2. Please collect the following information:
• Model ID
• Software Version
• Receiver CA ID R00
• Smart Card CA ID S00 or S19

We realize that in today's competitive world you have a choice in services. We thank you for your continued support, and your business is greatly appreciated and we thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any further questions or concerns, please refer to xxxxxxxxxxxx or reply to this email.

DISH Network is committed to providing world class customer service to our customers. In an effort to continually improve our services, we ask that you take time to complete this short survey to let us know how we are doing. We appreciate your time in evaluating our performance.

Click on the link below to start the survey: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sincerely,

Lxxxx S. SM5
DISH Network Technical E-care

** Please include all previous correspondence when replying. **

-----original message-----

BxxxxVxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : DISH Remote Access web page says my 722K DVR is "Offline" but the on screen menu says it is "Online". I am finding allot o chatter online that the 722k DVRs that begin with a serial number of "R01" (which mine is) has issues with the DISH Remote Access website. I've spent nearly an hour on the phone with a DISH rep already with no insight to the cause or a solution. I've been cut off by Jxxxxxx P during an online chat a few minutes ago claiming I was unresponsive which is not true. She didn't even give me enough time to type in my 16 digit account number. I am really getting aggravated with your service and support. I am not even close to being %100 satisfied. You advertise these great features that do not work! I will cancel my service for Direct TV and tell all my online friends and fans why, if someone does not rectify this ongoing complaint.

Sincerely,

Bxxxx Vxxxxxxxxxxxx
​
BTW: I do not have any online fans and few friends but I have heard a comedian use the approach on "glamazon.com" with great affect : )
PROBLEM SOLVED!!!! 10 minutes after posting the reply above DISH Remote Access on my ViP722k DVR-HD (R01) is working with Software Version L652
vmike
works now!

I just went to the Dish remote access, where it had shown my receiver was offline, now takes me to the Dish Sling page.

I guess they got the R01 receiver thing figured out now...

I could get to the Sling site before but not through my Dish account page.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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harshness
This is what scares me about cryptocurrency: there doesn't seem to be any oversight.

It seems more like politics than investing.
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meStevo
A few clarifications... the ~$3B "locked" was mostly stablecoins (USDT/USDC). Tether and Circle can blacklist their own tokens, which makes those worthless to the thief. Bitcoin and ETH have no issuer, so they can't be frozen. That's the ~$2.4–3.3B the hackers still have, so the stolen BTC is very much not worthless to them. It was also spread across 10 blockchains, not just bitcoin. On getting made whole: SAFU is ~15,000 BTC (~$1.2B), and Binance says it'll cover the rest from company funds. Analysts don't see it as a solvency problem, and withdrawals are expected back within days.

The attack was pinned on North Korea's TraderTraitor group via a compromised engineer laptop. Like many hacks and compromises, that's old-school social engineering, not AI.

This is what scares me about cryptocurrency: there doesn't seem to be any oversight.

It seems more like politics than investing.

That's the tradeoff stablecoins make - a central issuer that can freeze funds, which is why half the loot got stopped. Bitcoin and ETH have no one in charge, so nobody can reverse a theft, but nobody can freeze your coins either. Stablecoins trade price volatility for trusting a central issuer.
dishstaller
That's the tradeoff stablecoins make - a central issuer that can freeze funds, which is why half the loot got stopped. Bitcoin and ETH have no one in charge, so nobody can reverse a theft, but nobody can freeze your coins either. Stablecoins trade price volatility for trusting a central issuer.
Thanks....that fills in some of the missing pieces.
Why some of the money could be locked and the rest not was a gigantic hole is every story I read. I thought "well if they can lock up stolen BTC, then why couldn't they do the same thing to BTC that is used for ransom or some other illegal activity?". NOW I understand.
I miss the days when you could read a news story and now walk away with more questions than answers.
Juan
Where would you spend 6.3 billion in crypto without anyone noticing?..In today's digital world most countries are watching purchases over 10k
dishstaller
Follow up to the story. Binance says it has "plugged" 90% of the $6.3 billion with its own cash. Well, that leaves 10% or $630 million that is "unplugged". Are those folks just out of luck?

dishstaller
Where would you spend 6.3 billion in crypto without anyone noticing?
They say it was North Korea so they'll probably just use it to buy things they need....oil, food, etc from nations and entities who don't care where the money comes from and since it is BTC...it can be spent anywhere with no blowback.
Juan
They say it was North Korea so they'll probably just use it to buy things they need....oil, food, etc from nations and entities who don't care where the money comes from and since it is BTC...it can be spent anywhere with no blowback.
Someone using AI would be able to see the purchase...plus if you were to buy a couple billion barrels of oil or any other commodity..someone would notice..or if you bought your own country
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
Ronnie-
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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rvvaquero
The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Ronnie-
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

.
But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Jimbo
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.



But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
No, no ... if you want to make the playoffs, you want to Win it ... If you want to Win it, you need to Win 4-5 games in a row against Top 10 teams for the most part, theres a Possibility you'd play someone out side of the Top 10, but not much.

The Playoffs is a 4-5 game Win or Go Home.
osu1991
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Safe In My Garden - The Mamas & The Papas
long_time_Dish
Mary Shut The Garden Door - Donald Fagen
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dishstaller
The Wind Cries Mary - Jimi Hendrix
long_time_Dish
Lonely Wind - Kansas
dishstaller
Lonely is the Night - Billy Squier
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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vazhog
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
harshness
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).
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Foxbat
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
osu1991
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.
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Bobby
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
There are no dues to be paid to be in the Pit. You just have to use the password which is clearly shown when you try to log in to it.
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dishstaller
Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays.

Yes.....they do. Which is why I am very careful when at a customer's house these days....you NEVER know what is going to set someone off. Polite dialog is a thing of the past.....which is why I like my dog so much :)
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dishdude
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).

Which makes zero sense. If they are healthy and able to work but won't, they aren't using any health resources up.
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navychop
Until a runaway pickle truck hits them.
dishdude
Until a runaway pickle truck hits them.

I'm sure Vlasic has good insurance!
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

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comfortably_numb
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
TRG
TRG
It's not even Halloween yet.
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I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
Don in CT
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
So it's a drunk father telling his in-laws to leave.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Scott Greczkowski
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Scott Greczkowski
Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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(((Garyd)))
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.
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(((Garyd)))
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I had a direct link to ]Political, thought provoking and debatable but now have to go in the main section or I get a warning on my Bitdefender
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dishstaller
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
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Scott Greczkowski
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
Its an automated bot. Explained it to you in the PM.
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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
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I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.
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navychop
Ungood.
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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
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navychop
Tell Alexa verbally what to do.
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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.
navychop
The Resurrectionists can help you with that.

For a price.
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