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stonecold
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I figured I write this considering what went on in another thread.

First off I will say this, if the billing system removes credits because an the red credit flag was raised it will take some time to get reversed and find a manager willing to remove it . Most will see the flag and tell you tough noogies. Some like my self are actually willing to review the account. And if the billing system wrongfully flaged the account then dtv will take care of it, like in the case of another sateguys member it was reseversed and taken care of.

First thing you should know about credits is every deparment has different credits.

The first department you will speak too at direct tv is the Billing and General Information department. We carry some offers and you have to remember not all offers are available to all customers. Our systems look at the account and then display offers it says you available for.

So lines like my cousin got this discount I want it too often does not work.

Also we seldom have the ability to give out free hbo. We have not had that offer in a while so dont ask for it we dont have it.

Billing department does not have NFL ST offers best way to get those is say you want to cancel nfl st ( you have till today before tonights game to cancel ) That will get you over to the A group known as Premium Save Team which they handle all request to cancel premium channels and sports packages. They have some offers available again they are automatically generated per account. These are the people who generally can hand out the free super fan. But I will warn that frequent use of threatening to cancel things like NFLST will result in deminish returns down the road. Basically if you threathen to cancel ever year you not likely to get free superfan after a while.

Remember DTV is a Business not a charity.

If you call up and say hey look things are getting bad around here I been a customer for a long time ( only say that if you have ) and I just cant afford Super fan or nflst or NHL CI etc. You will most liely get the best offer the agent can give over having to haggle over it by calling in mad screaming how it not fair how someone got a deal and you didnt.

Also I would like to touch briefly on the credit flag and excessive credit letter. They are really two separate things . The Flag get automatically raised by our billing application I dont know the criteria it looks for but it is some forumla and will send up a warning flag and reverse the last credit on the account that cause the flag to go up in the first place. Generally most people dont even notice because the flag goes up audit team steps in they reiew the account ( sometimes it takes longer then usual ) and they basically confirm the flag or remove it if it was triggered by something mondaine like crediting back for a NRF for a reciver a tech took back versus mailing in. Yes it happens. Ok the excessive credit leter happens when they reivew the account and see that your always calling in to get a credit / discount /etc basically you call ever year to scream your going to cancel and go to dish so rentions give you a credit then you call up every season and trhy to cancel any one of the sports package to get a discount on them. When you basically playing the system too much a letter will go out saying basically stop it or we will can the account. These letters are rare yes I known some people that have gotten them but overall it is rare to get said letter


Note also calling in 10 times day playing csr roulutte does not work very well also when we see someone callin 10 times tody about xyz credit they want we just going to repeat the sme thing you were told the last 10 times. call if you get denied wait a day or two and then call back. But repeative calling all in one day does not work.

Some other tips

You have a tad bit more leverage if you are

near the end or out of your commitment

been with us 3 years or longer

Have a good pay history

All those pay a factor in what credits the system says your elibalbe for.



Current Promo as of Sept 09

1. HBO/Cinemax 2 for 1 - buy HBO get Cine for 3 months free
2. Starz/Showtime 2 for1 same as above
3. Starz 5 dollars off for 6 months
4. Showtime 5 dollars off for 6 months
5. Sports Pak 5 dollars off for 6 months
6. 3 months free of either Starz, Showtime, Sportspack
7. Free HD Extra for 3 months
8. 6 months Free Locals for customers who now have locals in there market that have plans that do not include locals
9. 6 months free DVR service ( rare )
10. 6months free HD ( rare )

Note I will probably edit this when I think of more advice.
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KCK_Halo
Priceless information to store in our minds! Thank you.
Islandguy43
NHLCI for NHFLST?

Any chance of ever getting NHLCI instead of the NFL ST package in the promotional pricing?
stonecold
No the NFL ST promo that they run ever year for new customer is a speciality deal between dtv and the nfl.

There is a thread around here about an nhl promotion going on. I know of the offers but cant really go into detail on them but they have been mentioned here before.
Big Dawg 23
Any chance of ever getting NHLCI instead of the NFL ST package in the promotional pricing?



Call and calmly explain your displeasure about no Versus and the loss of hockey. Mentioning NO MSG-HD and MSG-HD+ will get you no where. It appears by your avatar you love hockey. This should result in Free Center Ice.
Islandguy43
Call and calmly explain your displeasure about no Versus and the loss of hockey. Mentioning NO MSG-HD and MSG-HD+ will get you no where. It appears by your avatar you love hockey. This should result in Free Center Ice.

I am not a D* sub yet. I would seriously considering subbing tomorrow, if they substituted NHLCI for NFL ST. I don't feel that NFL ST is such a great value, unless you heavy fantasy football player or big time gambler. There is plenty of nfl football availalbe all over dial now, and with my wife being Canadian, NHLCI is a must for her to see her team. The MSG situation, wouldn't be a problem in my part country because they would be part of my DMA, and I would get them in HD. They would need to resolve their VS issue too though.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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dishstaller
Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
RaiderPower
Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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long_time_Dish
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
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T
It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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S
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
S
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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ppappas
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
B
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
M
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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