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Mr Tony

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Last reply Nov 5, 2009 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

OTA guide info on Sony HD receiver?

Need some help from the Directv gurus

Bought today at a place called Unique (think goodwill but more upscale) a Sony HD receiver with OTA tuner

model SAT-HD300

Hooked it up to my OTA antenna and was able to scan all my digital locals in and watch them even with no satellite connection done. Now here is my question

I know with my old Dish 811 receiver (old HD receiver with OTA tuner) as long as I had a satellite connection for the sat that my locals were on (SD locals were on 110) I would get guide info on the 811 even with no subscription to Dish. All I would get was my locals but the guide helped

If I hook a connection up to 101 (I assume Minneapolis SD locals are there) will I get a guide? I understand I wont get any other channels but the free ones (the card in it is a grey card that says DirecTV on it) but will I get guide info?

Thanks guys

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Mr Tony

Nov 3, 2009

OK I guess I can do a "no dish" option but that has some issues
-no clock
-no guide
-channels are logged for some reason in the order they scan (their actual channel, not the PSIP remap) so I have some glitches since we have 2 digital channels for PBS (16 & 34) but they map to 2-1 through 2-4 (2 on eac) so it logs goofy

guess I'll ghetto setup a LNB for 101 just for the guide

I can block out the other sat channels

Jimbo

Nov 4, 2009

Iceberg said:
OK I guess I can do a "no dish" option but that has some issues
-no clock
-no guide
-channels are logged for some reason in the order they scan (their actual channel, not the PSIP remap) so I have some glitches since we have 2 digital channels for PBS (16 & 34) but they map to 2-1 through 2-4 (2 on eac) so it logs goofy

guess I'll ghetto setup a LNB for 101 just for the guide I can block out the other sat channels

Iceberg,
I think what you may be seeing in your guide is the actual "Physical" channel number.
You may be able to get you channels on the reg. number as well as the physical number.

I caught this thread too late, but I think the Sony HD 100 and 200 did NOT integrate the OTA into the guide and the 300 did, or maybe it did when the 200 came out, can't remember for sure, I had the 100 and should have waited for the 200, so maybe it was the 200 where the change was made.

I thing I did like was the ability to pick up the Physical channel.

Mr Tony

Nov 4, 2009

Jimbo said:
Iceberg,
I think what you may be seeing in your guide is the actual "Physical" channel number.
You may be able to get you channels on the reg. number as well as the physical number.

I caught this thread too late, but I think the Sony HD 100 and 200 did NOT integrate the OTA into the guide and the 300 did, or maybe it did when the 200 came out, can't remember for sure, I had the 100 and should have waited for the 200, so maybe it was the 200 where the change was made.

I thing I did like was the ability to pick up the Physical channel.

I think it fixed itself. The issue I had was our PBS here in Minneapolis is 4 channels mapped spread along 2 physical channels
34 maps to 2-1 & 2-2
16 maps to 2-3 & 2-4

It seemed like it would show
2-3
2-4
4-1 (which is physical 32)
then 2-1 & 2-2

but after turning the sat option on and off then it shows 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 2-4 etc

boba

Nov 4, 2009

Ice you do know that was made by LG same as the Hughes HTL HD. Those did both NTSC and ATSC so if you want to modulate a channel and send it whole house the Sony should be able to tune it and add to guide after scanning.

Mr Tony

Nov 4, 2009

I noticed it had both an analog and digital tuner (and cable too) because I got a bunch of low powered stations logged in too....had to rescan just digital

Jimbo

Nov 4, 2009

Iceberg said:
I think it fixed itself. The issue I had was our PBS here in Minneapolis is 4 channels mapped spread along 2 physical channels
34 maps to 2-1 & 2-2
16 maps to 2-3 & 2-4

It seemed like it would show
2-3
2-4
4-1 (which is physical 32)
then 2-1 & 2-2

but after turning the sat option on and off then it shows 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 2-4 etc

They generally will catch up on the correct mapping in a few hours or so.

Glad to see it working for you, I had a HD 100 and I could not get past the Searching for signal to get into it , so I gave up.
I too wanted to do that, but it was quite awhile ago.

Mr Tony

Nov 5, 2009

Yep just slapped a LNB next to my Primestar dish aimed at 105W (for free to air) and got 70-72 signal on most TP's and some to 90 (must be spotbeams)...now to run the new cable into the house and hook it up to the existing wire for that room and I'll have OTA and a couple freebie channels (channel lists and sports schedules)

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Last reply Today at 12:04 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Strega

Yesterday at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:02 PM

Strega said:
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

someone is showing their age

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:38 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:

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Yesterday at 10:03 PM

I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord

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Yesterday at 11:01 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!

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Today at 12:04 AM

dishstaller said:
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

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Country singer John Anderson died today

He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.

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Yesterday at 10:53 PM

Rest In Peace

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Yesterday at 11:01 PM

I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.

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Yesterday at 11:03 PM

Rest in peace.

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Yesterday at 11:04 PM

Hope you're out there Swingin', John.

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dishstaller

Today at 12:02 AM

mikew said:
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.

That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.

niembre

Last reply Yesterday at 11:21 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

OTA no working after Update

My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?

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Scott Greczkowski

Sep 24, 2026

Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.

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bookworm370

Sep 25, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy.

Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!

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slow_poke_pete

Sep 27, 2026

bookworm370 said:
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that!

dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!

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ppappas

Sep 30, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!

They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.

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Almighty1

Oct 1, 2026

ppappas said:
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.

Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.

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Briant73

Yesterday at 9:19 PM

Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:48 PM

Briant73 said:
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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Yesterday at 9:57 PM

Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.

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Yesterday at 11:21 PM

In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.

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ATSC 3 converter boxes

Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.

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Tuesday at 12:03 PM

DEATH TO NEXGEN!

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TRG

Tuesday at 12:12 PM

17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.

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navychop

Tuesday at 12:27 PM

Comb your hair.

primestar31

Yesterday at 7:29 PM

navychop said:
DEATH TO NEXGEN!

It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

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navychop

Yesterday at 10:37 PM

I truly hope you are right.

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