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Question for "Satellite AV" sponsor

I bought and installed one of the new SL2 Bullet dual output LNBF's on a system and I'm experiencing a lower quality signal causing pixelation on some TP's.

The issue is with the 97.ow. The dish is a GEOsat pro 90 cm equipped with the dual LNBF bracket, it's aimed at the 97 and 101. The problem is that the quality has dropped about 8% compared to the standard single bullet LNBF.
Example, with the single output LNBF I get 43% on TP 12115 and 35% with the new dual output model, I put the single back and it goes up to 43% again.

I spent over 2 hours trying to fine tune this baby with no luck, it doesn't compare to the single model.

My question for Satellite AV is; have you had other consumer's experience the same issue? Is there a known issue with these new models or could it be defective? Please advise...

Your help is greatly appreciated.
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All my dishes are quality reflectors. Unimesh 12 foot for c band, 90cm Primestar and 84cm ADTH for Ku. So I never see any changes due to thin metal flexing.

I have to agree with low cost items not being made like they should. (Im having an issue with an actuator now) The bottom line is these days people for the most part want things as cheap as possible and the manufactures want to make as much as possible. Due to those factors we see the junk out there. There is some quality consumer gear but not at low cost. The best stuff in satellite these day are commercial products, but they carry a hefty price tag.
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All materials expand and contract with variation of temperature. Steel will have a greater variance than composite materials and gauge will affect the rate and amount of change. The real question is: Are you using the right product to meet your specific needs?

The GEOSATpro 90cm dish is the heaviest gauge, galvanized steel 90cm dish currently distributed in North America. I have both the GEOSATpro 90cm and the 1.2M models for my personal hobbyist system at my home and am extremely satisfied with the performance.

Satellite AV has explored manufacturing a thicker gauge 90cm dish, but the price-vs-performance gain places the product cost far above the pricing of 90cm dishes in the DTH market. Hobbyists often desire a product which has performance factors which exceed the DTH product and only can be met by a commercial product. These commercial products are manufactured to higher specification, require more robust supporting hardware, higher distribution cost and demand additional labor to install than the DTH market would accept. The GEOSATpro 90cm certainly does not fall into the "pie tin" category!

Satellite AV is not making any apologies for our product, but we have chosen to provide awareness of a possible defect that could occur in the shipping process and offer a simple solution that could save hours of frustration. Satellite AV believes that we have an obligation to inform a buyer of a potential issue that will certainly negatively affect reception and result in customer dissatisfaction, increase telephone support demands and result in increased cost of a product. Most suppliers only provide an assembly sheet and make no mention of possible issues that could negatively impact the reception. You would be surprised at the number of "professional" installers who don't even know how to check a dish for warpage!

3ABN logo'd and distributed many different brands and models of dishes throughout the years. Most of the Azure Shine manufactured dishes were 0.8T, but they also distributed a slightly thicker gauge of 0.9T.

GEOSATpro products exceed performance of similar products offered in our market. Satellite AV products are designed for performance and quality and not to be cost cutters. We appreciate the support of our products by both the average DTH purchaser and the hobbyist with higher expectations and demands! We thank you for your feedback and this information is always considered as products continue to be refined and new items are introduced!
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McGuyver
I appreciate the comments from all of you who have replied and I do agree that the high cost facter of materials vs performance and consumer demand and affordability is a touchy matter, one must weigh in all these factors.

Brian, I don't mean to insult you or anybody at Satellite AV or catorgorize the GEOSATpro dish as a cheap pie tin, the term is only used to compare apples with oranges, there is a distinct quality difference between the old and new. This is understandable but I must say that the older/heavier dishes aren't affected by weather alike, my dish farm and 10 years experience in this hobby proves this so, to myself anyway, lol.

There has been improvements that we can appreciate such as the added feedarm support struts that the earlier GEOSATpro dishes didn't have, I own one of the early models as well which I fitted with supports before they started adding them to the kit.

Now as for the 97w signal issue, yes I have noticed a lot of signal variances even on other sats recently. Much of the low signal problem may be weather related most likely but I can't say for sure. I always try to choose a clear day for tuning when the signals are strong. I have taken this possiblity into consideration when evaluating the problem I'm facing with this particular dish setup. The one thing I noticed is that 2 identical systems perform differently. The dish with the new SL2 bullet is the only one I have the greatest trouble with. The signals from the 97w are low on some TP's as the other post says and I have noted this but I can still watch a stable picture on the other dish without the SL2 bullet.

Thanks again to you all.
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zamar23
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I didn't try any GeosatPro Dishes, but heard good things about their quality. One of the points, no-one mentioned, is uneven bolt tightening on the dish mount, and deficient design of some dish mounts that can lead to dish angular position deviation under heat & cold condition due to residual stresses in mount points, which vary depending on ambient temperature.

I have one of Jonsa Tech TW made dishes, and quite happy with its profile accuracy, workmanship, consistent make quality and performance under average weather conditions. Signal strength doesn't change depending on temperature, and it works OK under a 50 m/h wind despite having no side struts to stabilize LNBFs mount. The struts themselves may stress some dishes under temperature variations, but resulting deformation will vary depending on the dish sheet metal gage. I would not recommend Jonsa dishes for extreme weather conditions due to weaker dish mount design and lack of side struts.
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I have a Geosatpro 36" dish motorized and it is very sturdy. I use to have a Fortec dish and that seemed to flex in the wind way too much.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
www.colts.com

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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