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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Thursday night, a whole slew of channels were unwatchable: SBYND, most SD Starz, most SD Encore, etc. They were still bad on Friday morning. FWIW, the receiver is always powered down at night.

I went to the check signals menu, signals looked good on 110 and 119, and when I exited, the channels were good.

It happened again Sunday with locals on 129. Since I have LOS issues with 129, that was no surprise, but I decided to check the signals anyway - I had a whopping 41 on 129, so I knew there should be no problem viewing the channels (Anything over 17 or so on 129 is great for my house.). It cleared it up. Later, it was gone again, but OTA was OK, so I just ignored it.

Can someone explain to me again how just checking the signal strength (not a check switch) can clear up poor reception on the receiver?
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MikeD-C05
Sounds like a bad install , bad dish peaking,or other problems with your receiver . Try this:

1. Unconnect the coaxes to your satellite IN ports on the back of your receiver. This will cause the picture to go black.

2. Run a check switch with no coaxes connected. This will cause the receiver to count down 1 of like 38 or so. Let it finish till it says no satellites in the matrix and hit save.

3. Then reboot your receiver by unplugging it. Allow it to stay unplugged for a minute before replugging it back in.

4. Now reconnect the coaxes to your satellite in ports and rerun another check switch. This should add all three sats back in to your check switch matrix. Hit save and let the receiver download the guide till the screen comes back.

If you have any more problems with your receiver call DISH and get a tech out to check your install , receiver etc. You can add the dish insurance for $6.00 a month and the tech visit will only be $15.00 . You can drop it after a couple of months . If you try to cancel the first month you will get a $25.00 cancellation fee .

Good luck.
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Something doesn't seem right... I want to guess either a corroded fitting or bad tuner/LNB... This kind of issue calls for a technician visit because it won't get fixed over the internet or over the phone. Switching television providers is a rather extreme solution if we haven't even looked at the setup you have. Get a tech out and if the problem isn't fixed call again. You do have a 60 day warranty period from the day the technician shows up so if it wasn't resolved we'll keep coming back until it is.
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Thanks for the advice - this thing is driving us crazy.

I will give the unplugged reset a try.

magnum2066 - I can see what you mean. I am leaning towards bad tuner or LNB. The system was installed brand new in November 2008, so it has not been in place that long. This is the second receiver...maybe third. The only thing that would make me lean away from a bad LNB is the fact that I have seen this behavior on channels served from two different satellites. That would implicate two LNBs, which should be less likely.

Here is a little more data from last night:

We were watching NBC from 129 and simultaneously recording it - just watching what we were recording, and staying caught up with live TV. Just hitting mute on the commercials. Might as well have been 1990....

We had been watching the broadcast from the beginning - actually from before recording started, and it was flawless.

When a commercial came on, my wife switched over to start the recorded stuff that we had just watched live to check if the recording was OK: The recorded show that we had just been watching was completely pixellated and unwatchable.

She switched back to the live program - it was also unwatchable, though 10 seconds before, before we checked the recorded version, it was great. We went through the check signals routine, and all was well on the live version.

Next commercial, we switched from watching it on the satellite feed to watching the same channel from the OTA tuner. Flawless OTA.

Switched back to the satellite feed of the same channel (10 seconds before, it was perfect), and it was unwatchable! Went through the check signals routine, and it came back.

Next commercial, we recorded for a few seconds, went to check it, it was OK. Came back to live, and the channel was shot. Check signals fixed it again.

Sorry to rant here - I am sure I come across as a whiner. But this thing is really frustrating.

I am wondering how to explain what is going on to a CSR - often they have no clue about how things work, and I can talk to three different ones, and get three different answers. They will first say "turn if off for 30 seconds, power up and let a check switch run", which in this case seems kind of useless. In the end, they will either send out a technician (the last one did not really even want to get out of the truck - they were running really behind that day, and a high-level supervisor was supposed to drop by their shop, and they were all in a panic), or send me a new receiver. I have been told to cut 3 different trees to improve LOS on 129, but even now, with no leaves, the best I can get is about 41....
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From the looks of it the installer picked a poor location for the dish antenna which doesn't help anything at this point. I'm leaning towards a defective receiver or possibly a power outlet issue although that is very uncommon... If it were me I'd have a technician do a better site survey for the best line of sight solution for the antenna.
PATECO
I am thinking cable/fitting issue. What your experienceing is one tuner with low signal. when you run check switch, it is coincidentaly switching your viewing back to the good tuner. when you are recording something, it is using one tuner, and what you watch live is coming off of the other tuner. if your live show looks good then the recording is crap and vice versa. This could be caused by improper cable (RG59 over any distance, will make the high frequncy tuner have low signal) or a bad fitting or barrel (crapy terminations or barel fittings will cause problems with either the high frequency tuner or the low freq tuner but usaully screws up the low signals) if you look at the signal meters and switch from tuner one to tuner two on the same sat and transponder, you should have almost equal signals if one is lower than the other, you have found your problem. as far as dish location, if you look at the signal for any satellite and it is steady but low, your dish may need adjustments. However if you look at the signal meter and it is fluctuating up and down, you most likely have a tree issue and need to break out the pruning and/or chain saw or relocate the dish.

Hope this helped.
Chip
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
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I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

What America can't afford is the payments on $80,000+ pickups and SUVs and $40,000+ crossovers.
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.
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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Almighty1
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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