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Looks like EchoStar is changing their stance on only using EchoStar6 in an emergency if EchoStar3 has another failure.

EchoStar Corporation requests authority to operate its Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) Service space station, EchoStar 6, as an in-orbit spare at
the 61.65º W.L. orbital location. EchoStar seeks authority to operate the telemetry, tracking, and telecommand functions of EchoStar 6 at this
location. EchoStar also seeks authority to activate the DBS communications payload of EchoStar 6 on a non-interference basis at this location, as
needed, to supplement and maintain the regular programming currently being provided by the EchoStar 3 space station at the 61.5º W.L. orbital
location and the EchoStar 12 space station at the 61.65º W.L. orbital location.
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mike123abc
I see them only using the TPs on E6 for programming they think they can get away with given the footprint. With the HD all moving to 72.7 for now, they could shuffle some stuff around and put the least popular programming on E6. I wonder if they could get away with the PI channels on E6?
T
I see them only using the TPs on E6 for programming they think they can get away with given the footprint. With the HD all moving to 72.7 for now, they could shuffle some stuff around and put the least popular programming on E6. I wonder if they could get away with the PI channels on E6?

What do you mean "With the HD all moving to 72.7 for now"??? Off of 61.5?

There are a boatload of HD customers that have two dish setups: 61.5 and 110/119. As Dish is not actively started swapping out such setups for either a 1000.2 or 1000.4 setup (at least not that I am aware of here in the Atlanta market), how could they move HD to 72.7?
Scott Greczkowski
What do you mean "With the HD all moving to 72.7 for now"??? Off of 61.5?

There are a boatload of HD customers that have two dish setups: 61.5 and 110/119. As Dish is not actively started swapping out such setups for either a 1000.2 or 1000.4 setup (at least not that I am aware of here in the Atlanta market), how could they move HD to 72.7?

All of the HD will be moving off 61.5 by this time next year... in the next few weeks all the premium channels will be mirrored on 72.7.
T
All of the HD will be moving off 61.5 by this time next year... in the next few weeks all the premium channels will be mirrored on 72.7.

That is interesting news. Has Dish publically stated such, or is that just good intel? What will 61.5w and E15 be used for then?
Scott Greczkowski
That is interesting news. Has Dish publically stated such, or is that just good intel?
I don't have the link in front of me, but have posted numerous documents from DISH about this.

Its real and it has started happening.

Haven't you noticed that your not getting all the new HD channels such as BBC America HD, Fox Soccer Channel HD, etc... those are all on 72.7 (and 129) only.

This was the first move in getting people on their correct arc. :)
fredp
There are a boatload of HD customers that have two dish setups: 61.5 and 110/119. As Dish is not actively started swapping out such setups for either a 1000.2 or 1000.4 setup (at least not that I am aware of here in the Atlanta market), how could they move HD to 72.7?
Well I haven't received any notices either that my dishes need to be upgraded. 77 has poor signal quality in northern Vt. So one third of EA will be a waste but I guess we haven't any other choice. What folks seem to be doing here from what I know is covering up 77 and keeping/adding a wing dish for 110. So 61.5, 72.7, and 110.

When I researched this a couple of weeks ago I was quoted a ~$300 price(local installer) to upgrade my current 61.5/110/119 setup. I was tempted because of BBC-HD, but other then that channel, I could care less about the other 8. So I'm waiting til ??? :(
T
I don't have the link in front of me, but have posted numerous documents from DISH about this.

Its real and it has started happening.

Haven't you noticed that your not getting all the new HD channels such as BBC America HD, Fox Soccer Channel HD, etc... those are all on 72.7 (and 129) only.

This was the first move in getting people on their correct arc. :)

Cool. I guess Dish is "committed" (meaning willing to actually move people off of the WA, or at least off of mixed arc setups, and on to the EA then. I don't have Dish but have siblings and parents living nearby that do. Due to trees I could not have Dish prior to the EA anyway due to line of sight. (Metro Atlanta) I have DirecTV with a Slimline 3 now with no issues, but only one point on my roof even works for that. But I like knowing I have options, and I think the EA would work for my situation should I ever choose to switch.

Is the primary focus at the moment on those customers with mixed arc setups (61.5, 110/119)?

What will really be interesting to see is will Dish be willing to lose customers for whom only their current mixed arc 61.5 and 110/119 setups works, due to line of sight issues to 72.7/77 or to 129. Also, at what point are they going to remove EA markets off of WA sats? Or do they plan to do that? i.e what is the objective here? To get rid of mixed arc setups, or to actually transfer some east coast markets (i.e. local channels) off of WA entirely? If the latter, they will inevitably lose some customers in the east who happen to have a LOS to the WA where their locals are now, but no LOS to the entire EA. Perhaps a net sum game positive, but there will always be some who can see the WA but not the EA.
flampher
Well I haven't received any notices either that my dishes need to be upgraded. 77 has poor signal quality in northern Vt. So one third of EA will be a waste but I guess we haven't any other choice. What folks seem to be doing here from what I know is covering up 77 and keeping/adding a wing dish for 110. So 61.5, 72.7, and 110.

When I researched this a couple of weeks ago I was quoted a ~$300 price(local installer) to upgrade my current 61.5/110/119 setup. I was tempted because of BBC-HD, but other then that channel, I could care less about the other 8. So I'm waiting til ??? :(

I live in Vt and had the EA installed a few weeks ago with 110 wing. basically they just installed the 1k4 where 61.5 was and cabled in 110 and left 119 unhooked from the the original dish, now wing dish. At the time there was a little programming on 77, C-span, NASA etc.. but that has all been moved off 77 to 72, and it has no programming at all left for us. As a matter of fact check switch no longer picks it up even though the point dish still has some reasonably fair signal levels on it. My intension's were to repeak it with 77 covered to get a little more signal on 61.5/72.7 but I have had no rain fade and we have had a lot of heavy rain since. I could not be happier, cost me $15, and I opted to upgrade my second dvr (512) to HD 612 This cost me $100 more.
digiblur
Cool. I guess Dish is "committed" (meaning willing to actually move people off of the WA, or at least off of mixed arc setups, and on to the EA then. I don't have Dish but have siblings and parents living nearby that do. Due to trees I could not have Dish prior to the EA anyway due to line of sight. (Metro Atlanta) I have DirecTV with a Slimline 3 now with no issues, but only one point on my roof even works for that. But I like knowing I have options, and I think the EA would work for my situation should I ever choose to switch.

Is the primary focus at the moment on those customers with mixed arc setups (61.5, 110/119)?

What will really be interesting to see is will Dish be willing to lose customers for whom only their current mixed arc 61.5 and 110/119 setups works, due to line of sight issues to 72.7/77 or to 129. Also, at what point are they going to remove EA markets off of WA sats? Or do they plan to do that? i.e what is the objective here? To get rid of mixed arc setups, or to actually transfer some east coast markets (i.e. local channels) off of WA entirely? If the latter, they will inevitably lose some customers in the east who happen to have a LOS to the WA where their locals are now, but no LOS to the entire EA. Perhaps a net sum game positive, but there will always be some who can see the WA but not the EA.

Atlanta is one of the dual arc cities where installers can do either WA or EA dish if one or the other does not have LOS.

And no I do not see them removing channels off of either arc when they are on both EA and WA. It makes is much easier for installs.
T
Atlanta is one of the dual arc cities where installers can do either WA or EA dish if one or the other does not have LOS.

And no I do not see them removing channels off of either arc when they are on both EA and WA. It makes is much easier for installs.

I thought from reading stuff back in 2008 that part of the rationale of creating the EA was to free up space on the WA by removing come eastern markets from the WA. So, based on the comment above, I would guess then certain large markets in the east will remain mirrored (i.e. locals) on the Western Arc? If that is the case, then I would not anticipate any wholesale swapouts in this market other than for those in a mixed arc setup where only having 61.5 and 110/119 will not suffice for receiving all the HD channels.

That said, my brother here in the Atlanta area (mixed arc setup) says he has received no notifications yet. My cousin with a 1000.2 dish has not either.


I also noticed that Lyngsat is not showing TPs 16 and 22 assigned to either Dish or DirecTV.
T
I meant to ask earlier - has E6 arrived at 61.5 yet?
digiblur
I thought from reading stuff back in 2008 that part of the rationale of creating the EA was to free up space on the WA by removing come eastern markets from the WA. So, based on the comment above, I would guess then certain large markets in the east will remain mirrored (i.e. locals) on the Western Arc? If that is the case, then I would not anticipate any wholesale swapouts in this market other than for those in a mixed arc setup where only having 61.5 and 110/119 will not suffice for receiving all the HD channels.

That said, my brother here in the Atlanta area (mixed arc setup) says he has received no notifications yet. My cousin with a 1000.2 dish has not either.


I also noticed that Lyngsat is not showing TPs 16 and 22 assigned to either Dish or DirecTV.

If he has a 1000.2 then he's good to go. Dish wants to get rid of the mixed arc dish setups. From a satellite fleet/uplink standpoint it only makes sense.

If they have the spotbeam capacity to carry both, then there's no point in not carrying it.

Don't use Lyngsat... use the link in my signature, it's live data on TheList.
B
I meant to ask earlier - has E6 arrived at 61.5 yet?

Yep, been there since about March 1 I think. At one time you could pick up signal on 4 transponders 6, 26, 28 and 4 I believe that were not available before it got to 61.5. Don't know if you still can because I am pointed at 129 now.
digiblur
I meant to ask earlier - has E6 arrived at 61.5 yet?

Yep...been there for several weeks now and transmitting.
TheKrell
basically they just installed the 1k4 where 61.5 was and cabled in 110 and left 119 unhooked from the the original dish...
This raises the question about the unhooked output. In my case, I insisted the installer leave my D500 on 110/119 for my SD receivers in the closet. It has a DP twin. If I took one output and hooked it to the input of my 1000.4, would the other output of the DP twin still switch when connected directly to a receiver?
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors
harshness
Still Loving You - Scorpions
Bobby
PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors

You're Still A Young Man - Tower Of Power
No Match, back to:
People Are Strange - The Doors




Isn't Life Strange - The Moody Blues
FTA4PA
Strange Days - Nazareth
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Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin
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Dancing in the Street - Van Halen
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TRG
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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Jimbo
I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
harshness
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
dishstaller
Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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Jimbo
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
SkyWatcher57
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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(((Garyd)))
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
a good surge protector will help to.
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SkyWatcher57
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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k4otl
Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
cyberham
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
k4otl
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
Seems like I remember that now, with my V9 I manually entered anyway on 105, easier for me to pick the channel later :)
T
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
primestar31
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
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JFOK
That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
primestar31
primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
Some people just call them power supplies (which really isn't a good fit in this case), some call them "wall adapters" but it's an external power supply or AC adapter that converts (AC) from a wall outlet into low-voltage (DC) that an electronic device needs to run.
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[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.
cyberham
...Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality...
105W has some very strong transponders. I received more than four transponders using a 41-inch dish recently. See here.
k4otl
[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.
The Westwood One Mux on 105W would likely be receivable, has some good music channels on there. It does scan in, but it's more convenient to manually enter the PIDs, check out Lyngsat for the channels: EchoStar 105/SES 11 at 105.0°W - LyngSat

I use a 10 footer (only C-band dish I have), but it's very strong.