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Last reply Apr 7, 2010 · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

Needing a good amp

My Antenna is over 100 feet from my house. I ripped down the dish network dish and put up my HDTV antenna. I tried it today but I couldn't get a signal. What sorta amp do I need to pull the signal in?

I know satellites use an in line amp but I am thinking it won't work because the receiver provides power through the line. (I put the wire in my mouth just to hold it one day and found out it was really powered.

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No Static At All

Apr 3, 2010

Please post a TV FOOL report so we can see what kind of signal strengths you are dealing with. Also give a brief description of your antenna.

100 feet of RG-6 cable shouldn't a deal breaker with just 1 TV & a moderate amount of signal strength. You may possibly just need a different antenna.

PKII

Apr 4, 2010

No Static At All said:
Please post a TV FOOL report so we can see what kind of signal strengths you are dealing with. Also give a brief description of your antenna.

100 feet of RG-6 cable shouldn't a deal breaker with just 1 TV & a moderate amount of signal strength. You may possibly just need a different antenna.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id=b7c8749564e252

This is the Antenna. I used all the sites to find the signals and things before hand. I can get a signal when the antenna is closer to the house I just needed to know what I needed to pull the signal from a great distance.

http://www.antennasdirect.com/DB4_HDTV_antenna.html

I am using RG6 I just ran all new lines for my Dish Network upgrade they never gave me. : /

No Static At All

Apr 4, 2010

You certainly have chosen the right antenna.

I'm surprised it doesn't get all the stations in the yellow & green with only 100 feet of cable.

(unless you are splitting the signal)

Your pre-amp choices are limited because of the moderately strong signal strengths at your location. A Winegard HDP-269 would be adequate for 2 to 3 TV's without risk of pre-amp front-end overload.

ebms1

Apr 4, 2010

No Static At All said:
You certainly have chosen the right antenna. I'm surprised it doesn't get all the stations in the yellow & green with only 100 feet of cable. (unless you are splitting the signal)

Your pre-amp choices are limited because of the moderately strong signal strengths at your location. A Winegard HDP-269 would be adequate for 2 to 3 TV's without risk of pre-amp front-end overload.

i agree ... i dont see why he should have an issue ... pointing or wiring ?????

what about height?????

Tower Guy

Apr 4, 2010

PKII said:
http://www.antennasdirect.com/DB4_HDTV_antenna.html

The DB4 should be getting something if aimed properly and your house isn't blocking the signal, even with 100' of RG-6. Perhaps the tvfool isn't for your exact location. A zipcode location only isn't accurate enough.

Your CBS is on VHF. The DB4 is a UHF only antenna. You'll need a different antenna such as the Winegard HD-7694P or a second VHF antenna (Y5-7-13 & UVSJ) to add to the DB4.

The Antennacraft amplifier mentioned is not a good choice because some of your signals are too strong for an amplifier with 30 db gain. The HDP-269 has 12 db gain and should not overload. Yet this advice is tentative until the tvfool report is checked for the right location.

PKII

Apr 4, 2010

ebms1 said:
i agree ... i dont see why he should have an issue ... pointing or wiring ?????

what about height?????

Trees

PKII

Apr 4, 2010

Tower Guy said:
The DB4 should be getting something if aimed properly and your house isn't blocking the signal, even with 100' of RG-6. Perhaps the tvfool isn't for your exact location. A zipcode location only isn't accurate enough.

Your CBS is on VHF. The DB4 is a UHF only antenna. You'll need a different antenna such as the Winegard HD-7694P or a second VHF antenna (Y5-7-13 & UVSJ) to add to the DB4.

The Antennacraft amplifier mentioned is not a good choice because some of your signals are too strong for an amplifier with 30 db gain. The HDP-269 has 12 db gain and should not overload. Yet this advice is tentative until the tvfool report is checked for the right location.

Here is the correct tvfool link.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id=b7c81a8275df44

Tower Guy

Apr 5, 2010

PKII said:
Here is the correct tvfool link.

Abandon all hope of using a 5' high antenna. Try again with a 5-10 mast on the roof of the house.

ebms1

Apr 5, 2010

PKII said:
Trees

trees at a distance should be ok ... but close are a problem....

what about the height of your ant ... usually 15 to 20 ft up is good, higher the better usually...

are you sure that you are pointed good .... that ant is directional ... uhf only ...

your wiring should be good if you used it for sat... for sat you need current flow...

PKII

Apr 6, 2010

Tower Guy said:
Abandon all hope of using a 5' high antenna. Try again with a 5-10 mast on the roof of the house.

lol. I can get Fox, ABC and all the Ion's with my other location at 5 feet. ; ) My problem is I am getting nothing now and its really up higher than it was. I just changed from about a 25 foot wire distance to 100 foot.

Thanks for everyone for their suggestions. Back to the house and on the roof will work.

PKII

Apr 6, 2010

ebms1 said:
trees at a distance should be ok ... but close are a problem....

what about the height of your ant ... usually 15 to 20 ft up is good, higher the better usually...

are you sure that you are pointed good .... that ant is directional ... uhf only ...

your wiring should be good if you used it for sat... for sat you need current flow...

I had it at 15 feet but I got the same channels at 5 feet and it was easier to reach.

PKII

Apr 7, 2010

Problem found

I have all my wires clearly marked so I will know which ones to use. The wire for HDTV is marked "HDTV" and C band, dish network, etc.

So when hooking my my antenna naturally I would use the one marked HDTV.

However that was my old 25 foot run. My new run is on my dish network line.

I hooked up the correct cable and poof I get a signal.

Still not getting NBC and ABC has issues but Fox and all the ION's are there.

Helps to use the correct wire.

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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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