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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Anyone out there knows if it is possible to get 72.7 and 77 from Puerto Rico using 4' antennas?

Currently I am using 5' / 4' / 4' antennas with a 61.5/110/119 setup and it works great (except for TPs 19, 21 and 24 in 61.5 but that isn't an issue for me).

I want to preserve my premium channels in HD.
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neljtorres
PR HD Spotbeams and Conus Beams

S=Spotbeam C=Conus Beam

S Animal Planet HD APL 4900 23s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
S Discovery HD (not Discovery HD Theater 9421) DISC 4901 20s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico

S The History Channel HD HIST 4902 23s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
S Cartoon Network HD (really Stretch-o-vision SD) TOON 4903 18s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico

S Comedy Central HD CMDY 4904 18s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
S The Disney Channel HD DISE 4905 18s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
S Disney XD HD DISXD 4906 23s48/49 110° E*10 AT200+HDs Puerto Rico
S Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite SAP NICK 4907 18s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
C TNT HD TNT 4908 7 110° E*11 PR DLMax+ DLMax+HDE
C USA Network HD USA 4909 7 110° E*11 PR DLMax+ DLMax+HDE
S Arts & Entertainment HD A&E 4910 20s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
C Syfy Channel HD SYFY 4911 7 110° E*11 PR DLMax+ DLMax+HDE
S Bravo BRAVO 4912 23s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
S Food Network HD FOOD 4913 20s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
S FX HD FX 4914 18s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
SHome & Garden TV HD HGTV 4915 20s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
S Lifetime Television HD LIFE 4916 20s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
S Spike HD SPIKE 4917 18s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
S TBS (Turner Broadcasting System) HD TBS 4918 18s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
C HD Theater NOT Discovery HD (9487) HDTHR 4919 13 110° E*11 PR DLMax+ DLMax+HDU
C HD Net HDNET 4920 7 110° E*11 PR DLMax+ DLMax+HDE
C HBO HDTV (East) HBO-E 4921 13 110° E*11 Puerto Rico
C Showtime HDTV SHO-E 4922 13 110° E*11 Puerto Rico
S Cinemax HD MAX-E 4923 23s48/49 110° E*10 AEP* Max* Puerto Rico
S Starz HD STARZ 4924 23s48/49 110° E*10 AEP* S/E * Puerto Rico
C HD Net Movies HDNMV 4925 7 110° E*11 PR DLMax+ DLMax+HDU
S MTV HD MTV 4926 20s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
S CNBC HD CNBC 4927 23s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
S Cable News Network HD CNN 4928 18s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
S The Weather Channel HD TWC 4929 20s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico
C ESPN High Definition ESPN 4930 7 110° E*11 PR DLMax+ DLMax+HDE
S ESPN 2 HD ESPN2 4931 23s48/49 110° E*10 Puerto Rico
S The Learning Channel HD TLC 4932 20s48/49 110° E*10 AT100+HDb Puerto Rico

C 4933 WGN 110° E*11
C 4934 CI110° E*11
C 4934 GREEN 110° E*11


So Hd coming from Spotbeams= 24 HD channels
Conus =13 HD on 110

courtesy from my freinds bobabird, ramy, and tony http://www.dishuser.org/puertorico.php
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courtesy from my freinds bobabird, ramy, and tony EKB: Dish Network for Puerto Rico



regarding to that link, its says on top of the page (see below), that the requirements from PR for receiving 61.5 is a 5.5 feet dish and this is not true. 5.5 feet does not work with echostar 3/12 (61.5). 61.5 ONLY works with dishes over 6 feet (in Puerto Rico). Please fix that, and do not make people waste their money as I almost did.

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Tom_P
regarding to that link, its says on top of the page (see below), that the requirements from PR for receiving 61.5 is a 5.5 feet dish and this is not true. 5.5 feet does not work with echostar 3/12 (61.5). 61.5 ONLY works with dishes over 6 feet (in Puerto Rico). Please fix that, and do not make people waste their money as I almost did.

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Well Titanio I have a lot of people getting the 61.5 with 5 footers, takes time but it can be done.

Regarding the latino packages use the same breakdown for new channels LanitoHd, Latino Dos HD and Latino Max HD, as I posted HD120, HD200 and HD250.
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Well Titanio I have a lot of people getting the 61.5 with 5 footers, takes time but it can be done.

you admitted it takes time, to make it work. and to what extent?
you wanna know what i think? I think many local dealers are overstocked of new 5.5' dishes because they sell this for the black market FTA "amazonas" satellite, and people here dislikes south american programming, and they are not selling them as they expected last year. thus they're are pushing 5.5' dishes for "everything". I tried it, it worked for some transponders but not for most, and even never picked up transponder 24 . this forum is full of local puerto rican dealers and technicians, I know they back their products, but as a very unbiased customer who's "been there" I can tell you you, it does not work.

If someone who want this satellite is reading me... save the hassle and buy a used 6 "footer" for a couple of bucks more. look around. I told you! (just a recommendation from another client standpoint, i'm not selling here anything)
Tom_P
Well Titanio you want to know what I think? Well I don't care what do you think. I'm selling Dish Network systems since 1997, first for an Authorized Dealer from Maine, then on 2001 a friend and I became Authorized Dealers.

If local "dealers" are overstocked with 5.5 footers that's their problem, can't care less. I don't buy antenas to re-sell. If they want to go into the illegal FTA, that's heir problem. I sleep very good at night, thank you very much. Besides I don't buy from them neither...

This web site as many others is to share information and experiences you are telling yours I'm telling mine. If somebody did a piss poor job on your installation, well there's a lot of mediocre "installers"(buscones) around which ruin the name for everybody else. Experience in this area had taugh a lot of tricks to fine tune the dishes. And like Nelson stated I don't put a gun on anybody's head to buy anything and I'm not selling anything here, just post the facts. Finally the cost of a 6' is around $500 new plus the mouting base. Last time I got a 5.5 it was like $140.
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Well Titanio you want to know what I think? Well I don't care what do you think. I'm selling Dish Network systems since 1997, first for an Authorized Dealer from Maine, then on 2001 a friend and I became Authorized Dealers.

If local "dealers" are overstocked with 5.5 footers that's their problem, can't care less. I don't buy antenas to re-sell. If they want to go into the illegal FTA, that's heir problem. I sleep very good at night, thank you very much. Besides I don't buy from them neither...

This web site as many others is to share information and experiences you are telling yours I'm telling mine. If somebody did a piss poor job on your installation, well there's a lot of mediocre "installers"(buscones) around which ruin the name for everybody else. Experience in this area had taugh a lot of tricks to fine tune the dishes. And like Nelson stated I don't put a gun on anybody's head to buy anything and I'm not selling anything here, just post the facts. Finally the cost of a 6' is around $500 new plus the mouting base. Last time I got a 5.5 it was like $140.

you don't have to get pissed for me as a consumer telling people not to buy 5.5 for 61.5. why so much concern? am I harming anything? can you answer me?

6 feet dishes are sold around second hand here anywhere (lots of people have them to sell because of a local public school internet system massive dismantling or something that used them) And they are reselling this for around $160-200 you can even check on the local online classifieds (clasificadosonline) So you tell me a 6' costs $500 plus the base? when I only paid $175 for a used 6' channel master with its base (original from that school system thing) and all delivered to my home....... I guess where the buscones are. the 6' installation was flawless, quick, no hassle. wanna save the hassle? buy used 6'
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Hey elTiTANio:

I also live in PR and it seems that you have figured out a way to get equal treatment when it comes to HD. If I change my address/zip to a state-side address, will I be able to get more HD channels?

I'm sure it's probably not that simple but maybe we can work together to figure this out. I live in San Juan
Someone PM me, as it won't let me pm any of you.
Saludos,

-Baui
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Also, is America's Everything Pak + Latino Bonus + Free HD 250 worth paying for in PR (considering the unequal HD treatment)? or is there a better package (more bang for your buck) for PR.
Thanks
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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dishstaller
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
comfortably_numb
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
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NYDutch
That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Night Fever - Bee Gees
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Night By Night - Steely Dan
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Day By Day - Godspell
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Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
HipKat
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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dishstaller
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
osu1991
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

Ramy
Supporting Founder
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
rvvaquero
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Foxbat
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
TRG
TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
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dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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dishstaller
Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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dishstaller
This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
Juan
Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
T
Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv