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Concern over MPEG4

I am quite concerned over the CC comment about no new HD until MPEG 4 is rolled out. This will then require new STB.

This is VERY distressing to us with "new" $1000 921 receivers.

I really hope there will be a very generous plan to compensate us to switch receivers. Otherwise you will end up seeing a mass exodus of HD subs to Voom or Directv.
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Foxbat
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How long has MPEG-2 been around? I've been a Dish subscriber for 8-1/2 years and I know DirecTV was out before that (quasi-MPEG-2). So, MPEG-2 has been used to deliver Satellite programming for approximately ten years. So, here's MPEG-4 and now we need to upgrade. Fine, but let's make future generations of receivers upgradable! Otherwise, we'll be going through this again after MPEG-x comes along providing 1920x1080i with only 750Kbps.

Time after time, in talking with non-HD adapters (i.e., the general public), the perception is "why buy something today, when it will be cheaper/better/obsoleted tomorrow?" This is the group of people that expect a piece of Consumer Electronics to last 20-30 years. I mean, my Dad has a Sony Trinitron that looks as good today as when he bought it 28 years ago. Likewise, a Yamaha receiver he bought back then works just fine receiving FM and AM broadcasts. Sure, it doesn't understand any kind of Dolby or DTS, or even surrond, for that matter, but it still makes beautiful music (well, HE likes it.)

Dish made the 6000 relatively "future proof" by including upgrade slots. The 921 "should be" upgradable via the PCI slots. As far as I know, no other DBS STB maker does this. Still, if I amortized my receiver purchases over the years ($699 for my first 2000, $799 for the HM-DSR100, $725 for the Dish 6000, and $149 for my 811,) that's about $280/yr., added to the $400-500/yr. for programming. So, obviously, going with Dish has not been about "saving money". But it still hurts to look at this amount and think that it will all be for ca-ca when MPEG-4 is the standard.
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D* joins E* in plans to go to MPEG4

Neutron said:
D* hasn't annouced any plans to go to MPEG-4 yet. Current press release says we will be able to see the new HD channels with our current receivers. This is thanks to the massive capacity that's on the SPACEWAY satellites.
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I thought I had heard D* announce plans earlier to do just that. News out of CES, reported in several places such as

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000430026331

confirm the all D* receivers will also have to be replaced because of their plans to go to MPEG-4. This definitely effects all those new HD feeds planned.
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D* and E* follow VOOM to MPEG4

VOOM has included an expansion slot for an MPEG4 card in their STB and will have an expansion slot in their HD DVR being released late this quarter. In December E* announced that new HD content will be provided with MPEG4 compression beginning in late 2005 and will require new receivers. It was confirmed that the new 942 E* HD DVR being released late this quarter can not be upgraded to MPEG4. This is absolutely incredible! D* announced this week that the new HD programming from the new Spaceway satellites that will become available this summer will have MPEG4 compression. Again, none of their present HD receivers can be upgraded to MPEG4.

It appears that E* and D* will be able to milk their HD customers for a lot of additional money, while the little company that planned for the future will miss out on this additional revenue stream. However, VOOM should become a viable alternative to E* and D* with the huge number of additional HD and SD channels they have announced for this quarter and with their HD DVR being upgradable to MPEG4.
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Stargazer
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Its going to have to be DirecTv's and Dish Network's problem one way or another, they either pay for the swapouts or they lose their customers to cable or to each other (like subscriber swap) that plain and simple. What I mean by subscriber swap people would switch from DirecTv to Dish Network or vice versa to get the new customer promotions that would including those MPEG-4 receivers. Its already been announced anyways that there would be no or little cost for the swapouts. Maybe they will be smart and have slots to make them upgradable again in the future, something beyond MPEG-4 and also make the memory and other hardware within the receiver upgradable. This technology changes too much for there not to be upgradable slots. These are video computers.
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If the cost per swap is around 50.00 or something in that ballpark, I could live with that, especially if they spread the cost out over a couple months or more (wishfull thinking). With the exception of my DVR, I got my equipment free and can't really justify pulling a huge Superdish off the roof and paying to return to Direct. A lousy cable comany here (no HD of any kind) makes that switch unthinkable, and poor line of sight to Voom knocks them out of consideration too.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

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Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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The Diplomat (Netflix)

Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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klang said:
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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