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Last reply Jun 13, 2010 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Switching from E*, have questions

I've browsed this forum for a while as I've thought of switching to DirectTV since I learned MRV was in beta. A requirement for us, and the only selling point for Dish, is their wonderful MRV set up (and costs cheaper than D* a bit, but I digress).

A few questions I haven't found the answers to in regards to new service for my home. We will need two receivers with MRV capable and I won't be hooking it up to my home network (our internet speed is already restricted with a work computer). One TV is on the second level and the other on the ground level, in opposite corners, but both with existing coax connections (which are in use with Dish Network currently).

1) I'm confused on DECA for MRV. Does that require a dedicated internet connection - ie will I need to possible pay monthly to upgrade my pre-existing ISP or is it self-powered by D*?

2) I plan to use a referral (saving $100), AAA discount and HD For Life (offered as of today), but can't get this form of quote on the web site. Any way I can get a breakdown of costs beyond a year?

3) If I'm kind and offer a bit of incentive, would the D* tech take down my current Dish satellite (4 years old) and modify the pole if needed for the slimline? Due to my house positioning and neighborhood, it's currently in really the only location that can receive a SW view (my house is 3 stories tall ... no way would I get a dish up there). It's currently on my detached garage, at the pivot high point of the roof (mounting brackets on the side).

4) D* runs through coax, right? I really don't want any new wiring installed if I can avoid it. Dish is set up through coax and a splitter on the one receiver sending back into the coax for the 2nd TV to pick up the signal.

5) And lastly, I can have D* installed prior to canceling another service, right? Just in case D* gets here and can't complete an install I'd still have access to TV.

My house is 5 years old though and the wiring controlled with a panel in a ground-level closet, so I don't see any issues aside from mounting and running the cable down the garage, underground for about 6 feet and up to the box on the back of the hosue.

... that's it, I think.

I'm switching for MLB Network mostly, plus options for Sunday Ticket maybe and other sports that Dish will never acquire.

Thanks in advance, guys! This forum is a tremendous resource. I apologize if these specific questions have been answered, but I couldn't locate them in my search.

Chris

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sppunk

Jun 5, 2010

Thank you, jdspencer! You helped clear up a lot of my confusion.

I could run a phone line (I'm on DSL) to one of the boxes, but not the other, if need be for OnDemand. It could handle that (as has done for Dish a few times).

wildbill129

Jun 5, 2010

sppunk said:
Thank you, jdspencer! You helped clear up a lot of my confusion.

I could run a phone line (I'm on DSL) to one of the boxes, but not the other, if need be for OnDemand. It could handle that (as has done for Dish a few times).

You won't need a phone line if you go with DECA and connect to your network. The incoming cable from the dish is split via a special SWiM splitter, one line to each receiver. Another cable line from the splitter is run somewhere near your router, and a DECA adapter and power supply is attached. A single ethernet cable runs from the DECA adapter to your router. This gives you internet functionality on all your boxes that have DOD.

sppunk

Jun 6, 2010

wildbill129 said:
You won't need a phone line if you go with DECA and connect to your network. The incoming cable from the dish is split via a special SWiM splitter, one line to each receiver. Another cable line from the splitter is run somewhere near your router, and a DECA adapter and power supply is attached. A single ethernet cable runs from the DECA adapter to your router. This gives you internet functionality on all your boxes that have DOD.

Unfortunately my router isn't near where any TVs are. The router is in an office with no TV and no coax hookup, and moving the router would require moving it upstairs to the opposite corner of the house. :/

wildbill129

Jun 7, 2010

sppunk said:
Unfortunately my router isn't near where any TVs are. The router is in an office with no TV and no coax hookup, and moving the router would require moving it upstairs to the opposite corner of the house. :/

You don't need a TV in the office, just coax, which DirecTV can run for you. A phone line won't give you DOD, you need internet access. The phone line will only give you caller ID and the ability to order Pay Per View via the receiver.

If you can run a phone line to the DirecTV receiver location you could always move your modem/router there.....

sppunk

Jun 8, 2010

wildbill129 said:
You don't need a TV in the office, just coax, which DirecTV can run for you. A phone line won't give you DOD, you need internet access. The phone line will only give you caller ID and the ability to order Pay Per View via the receiver.

If you can run a phone line to the DirecTV receiver location you could always move your modem/router there.....

Due to where my phone and coax lines run, it's going to be a major pain to run new ones (my phone line with my router is actually in my kitchen, immediately next to my office but two doors leading outside between the rooms).

I could move my router upstairs, but I fear my signal strength down in my office would be greatly negatively impacted. I guess though that's my only choice, as my office has neither a phone nor coax connection.

sppunk

Jun 9, 2010

An update: Called the AAA number tonight and ordered my DirecTV package, and had no problems getting the referral pricepoint either.

I'm paying $29.99 for the first 10 months, $39.99 for the next 10, then $69.99 for the remaining 2 year committment. All that for 2 HD receives (one DVR), MRV, Choice Xtra.

Pretty stoked. Coming Friday for the install - wish me luck (though my house is only 5 years old with Dish currently active, so install shouldn't be too bad).

flabyboy

Jun 13, 2010

I am also looking to make the switch. Currently my modem and router are in my utility room, which is also the hub where my satellite coax comes in and connects to the different coax cables that go throughout the house. Is this arrangement going to work? It seems like it will from what I have read about the deca adaptor. Just making sure. Nothing worse than having the technician come out and say sorry can't do it. Happened to me last time I tried to get directv. I asked him to leave and called dish right away. Got it installed in 30 mins

JAG72

Jun 13, 2010

flabyboy said:
I am also looking to make the switch. Currently my modem and router are in my utility room, which is also the hub where my satellite coax comes in and connects to the different coax cables that go throughout the house. Is this arrangement going to work? It seems like it will from what I have read about the deca adaptor. Just making sure. Nothing worse than having the technician come out and say sorry can't do it. Happened to me last time I tried to get directv. I asked him to leave and called dish right away. Got it installed in 30 mins

That location will be perfect. They will most likely install the splitter for the SWiM right there as you have all the cable coming to a central point. After the splitter they will install a Deca adapter there and hook it right to your router.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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Bruce

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Last reply 46 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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dishstaller

Oct 22, 2026

Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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ncted

Oct 24, 2026

Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

brice52

Oct 24, 2026

ncted said:
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

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(((Garyd)))

Oct 24, 2026

brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

Bruce

Oct 25, 2026

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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brice52

Oct 25, 2026

(((Garyd))) said:
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one

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Bruce

Today at 8:28 AM

Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, Fiber soon after, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

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Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.

Ronnie-

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Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.

I think the cable companies didnt either, back when they had no real competition in their footprint.

But today, for many, maybe even most, cable isnt the only choice, or even the best.

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Monday at 12:22 PM

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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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man00

Yesterday at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:54 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

dish has new sats dtv does not

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renjy651

Today at 6:37 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not

Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

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