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Scott Greczkowski
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DISH NETWORK STATEMENT ON PBS INJUNCTION RULING

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., July 22, 2010 – DISH Network L.L.C. issued the following statement today about the PBS injunction ruling:
"We are disappointed with the decision, and intend to appeal. We believe that our customers should be the ones who decide what they want to watch on TV and how they want to watch it. We also believe that it is important to defend those fundamental First Amendment rights."
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sethwell
I want my PBS HD!!!
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I want my PBS HD!!!

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Why not get rid of the junk shopping channels to make way for PBS HD? Does anybody ever watch those? I would also like CW and MyTV in HD..
HDRoberts
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Why not get rid of the junk shopping channels to make way for PBS HD? Does anybody ever watch those? I would also like CW and MyTV in HD..

There are 354 PBS stationa. Care to explain how yanking a few SD shopping channels makes room for so many HD channels (especially when shopping is CONUS, PBS is LiL)?

Plus, Dish is paid for every shopping channel. You want to see your bill go up?
jerryez
There are 354 PBS stationa. Care to explain how yanking a few SD shopping channels makes room for so many HD channels (especially when shopping is CONUS, PBS is LiL)?

Plus, Dish is paid for every shopping channel. You want to see your bill go up?

Why is there 354 PBS stations when there are only 210 DMA, why is the government paying for more PBS stations than are needed.
pabeader
all this talk about a PBS station?
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all this talk about a PBS station?

Well, you must live in an area where PBS is the PITS. Here, in the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton DMA, we have a very powerful PBS> Broadcasting on 4 digital channels and PBS AND LOCAL produced HD. It is the Indie stations most people want. THey do live HD from couty fairs. They produce live and recorded HD in their studio of artists and home grown talent who appear on their award winning FM. I know other markets do not have anything near that, but for the markets that do, it is very important that they get on Directv and Dish with the HD that the public is paying for. I am sure, when the allocations for dish were set up, Charlie had negative thoughts about pBS like most people.

I am sure the locals ratings are down since digital only took over and many people went with satellite and never hooked up OTA. Heck, with directv you can't unless you buy an option.

WIth the government cutting PBS budgets (PA killed all payments to its PBS stations) these stations NEED satelitte coverage to continue.

They should give coverage to PBS-HD before they give coverage to a sub channel (-2) like they are doing with some stations.

How to gain more space: For those with Sub channels (which take up some of the channels bandwidth ota) , decrease the bandwidth on dish if they are sneaking in a sub channel.
G
In one of these PBS/Dish Network threads somewhere, I read that the main impetus for STELA requiring an accelerated PBS HD carriage timetable was that Dish Network wanted no part of rebroadcasting local PBS HD channels.

The short of it is that DirecTV and most local cable companies signed an agreement with the Association of Public Television Stations (APTS) to gain HD carriage of local PBS stations. Dish Network dragged the negotiations for years, and now have no one to blame but themselves.

PS: Dish Network could have come to terms with APTS on an HD carriage agreement. There was still time to negotiate before STELA's mandatory timetable kicked in. However, why would APTS now bother when Dish Network has shown their true colors?
chicagonettech
Why is there 354 PBS stations when there are only 210 DMA, why is the government paying for more PBS stations than are needed.

The "government" no longer pays for PBS. It is entirely viewer and corporate sponsored and paid for. Less than 3% of PBS money now comes from Government grants.
96corvette
Well, you must live in an area where PBS is the PITS. Here, in the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton DMA, we have a very powerful PBS> Broadcasting on 4 digital channels and PBS AND LOCAL produced HD. It is the Indie stations most people want. THey do live HD from couty fairs. They produce live and recorded HD in their studio of artists and home grown talent who appear on their award winning FM. I know other markets do not have anything near that, but for the markets that do, it is very important that they get on Directv and Dish with the HD that the public is paying for. I am sure, when the allocations for dish were set up, Charlie had negative thoughts about pBS like most people.

I am sure the locals ratings are down since digital only took over and many people went with satellite and never hooked up OTA. Heck, with directv you can't unless you buy an option.

WIth the government cutting PBS budgets (PA killed all payments to its PBS stations) these stations NEED satelitte coverage to continue.

They should give coverage to PBS-HD before they give coverage to a sub channel (-2) like they are doing with some stations.

How to gain more space: For those with Sub channels (which take up some of the channels bandwidth ota) , decrease the bandwidth on dish if they are sneaking in a sub channel.

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Derwin0
The "government" no longer pays for PBS. It is entirely viewer and corporate sponsored and paid for. Less than 3% of PBS money now comes from Government grants.
The Feds might not, but some States do, especially those with Statewide PBS systems like Maryland, Georgia, South Carolina, etc...
Also some Cities have PBS stations that they support as well.
kstuart
In one of these PBS/Dish Network threads somewhere, I read that the main impetus for STELA requiring an accelerated PBS HD carriage timetable was that Dish Network wanted no part of rebroadcasting local PBS HD channels.

The short of it is that DirecTV and most local cable companies signed an agreement with the Association of Public Television Stations (APTS) to gain HD carriage of local PBS stations. Dish Network dragged the negotiations for years, and now have no one to blame but themselves.

PS: Dish Network could have come to terms with APTS on an HD carriage agreement. There was still time to negotiate before STELA's mandatory timetable kicked in. However, why would APTS now bother when Dish Network has shown their true colors?

Actually, Dish has until August 6th to conclude an agreement with APTS, and that would automatically nullify the STELA provisions regarding PBS.
kstuart
Actually, Dish has until August 6th to conclude an agreement with APTS, and that would automatically nullify the STELA provisions regarding PBS.

Actually my math was off, and it was July 27th, but they concluded an agreement:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/222028-dish-avoids-stela-noncom-mandate.html

The relevant STELA bill text is:

'(2) ELIGIBLE SATELLITE CARRIER- The term 'eligible satellite carrier' means any satellite carrier that is not a party to a carriage contract that--
'(A) governs carriage of at least 30 qualified noncommercial educational television stations; and
'(B) is in force and effect within 150 days after the date of enactment of the Satellite Television Extension and Localism Act of 2010.';
cditty
Local PBS looks like crap anyway. They all have 3 sub-channels, so the main channel is bit starved.
Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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ncted
All my parents had to do to get a discount on Spectrum Internet is say the words "Verizon Home Internet," and they cut the price by $30/month.
NYDutch
All my parents had to do to get a discount on Spectrum Internet is say the words "Verizon Home Internet," and they cut the price by $30/month.
I don't think they'll go below the current $30 price since it's part of a deal they have with the non- profit that owns the apartment building.
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I don't think they'll go below the current $30 price since it's part of a deal they have with the non- profit that owns the apartment building.
Yeah, I was just saying Spectrum suddenly wants to keep what customers they can.
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Tom Speer
Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdripution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successaor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
Foxbat
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
Neutron
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Does anyone here use Apple Home/HomeKit with HomePods or Apple TV to automate smart devices in their house? We have had Amazon's Alexa set up in our house for the last 10+ years and I have been waiting to switch them out to Apple for a few reasons; We are already in the Apple ecosystem with our phones, tablets, and computers. I have never liked Amazon's stance on privacy and I really like that Apple has pushed for privacy for a long time.

I bought 4 of the new HomePod Mini 2 speakers to go in various rooms in our house and we have one of the new Apple TVs on preorder that will be the start of me replacing our Rokus. I have the HomePod Mini 2s set up and have an RPi that is running HomeBridge for our legacy smart devices that worked natively with Alexa but don't work with Apple Home natively. I had trouble with the older smart bulbs not keeping the brightness or light color consistent with what our routines were with Alexa despite trying every setting in HomeBridge with the bulbs just not shining very bright. I ended up replacing them with updated versions that are Matter compatible so they work in Apple Home natively. That in and of itself has been interesting to set up because I have my home network segretated with the IoT devices on their own vlan and wifi and pretty locked down. Matter requires IPv6 and due to how my home network is designed I had to do some digging with AI to figure out how to make it all work correctly.

Apple Home definitely has some shortcomings that Alexa does much better with but I am hoping Apple will continue to improve their Home products and introduce features that will bring it closer to the functionality of Alexa.
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b4pjoe
I tried HomeKit to be able to see my Ring cameras on my Apple TV as they are not supported natively on Apple devices. The best I could get was to be able to view the cameras live but I could not view any recordings. After the last major update version of HomeKit I could not even view the live cameras anymore. I gave up on it after that. If I were going to do it again I would only buy devices that can work on Apple devices natively as HomeKit didn't work well at all for me.
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Neutron
I tried HomeKit to be able to see my Ring cameras on my Apple TV as they are not supported natively on Apple devices. The best I could get was to be able to view the cameras live but I could not view any recordings. After the last major update version of HomeKit I could not even view the live cameras anymore. I gave up on it after that. If I were going to do it again I would only buy devices that can work on Apple devices natively as HomeKit didn't work well at all for me.
That's what I started doing after seeing legacy devices work hit or miss using the HomeBridge. At least Apple is following a standard now with Matter which is unusual for Apple. Looks like HomeBridge does allow you to see the live views but I haven't seen how to view past recordings. I'd really like to ditch Ring altogether due to their stance on privacy and if I had my choice I'd go with UniFi since that's what I use for my network and I like the idea of my camera recordings being all local and not in the cloud. UniFi doorbells and cameras are quite pricey though.

I'll try to access the Ring doorbells in Apple Home for now but I'll see if it's useful any.
Foxbat
I found that the IoT devices need to see the Apple TV to be able to use it as the HomeKit Hub. Unfortunately, that means being in the same IPv4 subnet.

I was thinking of getting a HomePod Mini for my Mother-in-Law to play music and set up HomeKit scenes, as well as make FaceTime Audio calls. When Apple announced their price rises due to RAMageddon, I kicked myself as they went up 50% in cost. I'll be curious to see the HomeView in person as this might not be a bad way to get her started on automation.

She asked about it because her friends have Alexa and they use it to control lights. But like you, I feel better putting in a HomePod or HomeView that's listening for commands instead of Amazon or Google.
K
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'Rockford Files' Reboot Gets NBC Pilot Order

I grow tired of all the reboots. Most I don't bother with but will depend on the actor chosen.
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long_time_Dish

I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
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Howard Simmons
I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
I hope they can find enough Pontiac Firebirds to keep the show going.🤔
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dishstaller
I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
I had forgotten all about that part of the show. Used to really like it.
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long_time_Dish
The one where Beth is telling him about her cat is one of my favorites. "...he's not very discriminating". 🤣
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Knights In White Satin - The Moody Blues
Bobby
The Topical Song - The Barron Knights
dishstaller
The Logical Song - Supertramp
sdfntx
From a Logical Point of View - Robert Mitchum
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Point Of Know Return - Kansas
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
osu1991

Surprise! Fox Corp. said Friday it has closed the acquisition of streaming platform Roku, a deal valued at $22 billion, well ahead of the expected 2027 date.
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Neutron
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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Thought some might find this encouraging. It turned out good but I still feel a little bad about it.
Had to drop by Walmart on my way to the store this morning, I had enough time but no time to spare either. As I was walking across the parking lot I noticed an older gent pushing his buggy with a confused look on his face. I said hello as I passed but he didn't respond...something was bothering him. I kept walking and then stopped and chided myself for being in too much of a rush. I turned around and asked him if he needed some help. Turned out he had NO idea where he had parked his truck. He told what color and model and looked around...nothing. I asked him if he had tried his key fob, he wasn't sure what I was talking about and got it out and handed it to me. Hit the lock and listened for a horn like my F150 does. Nothing. Finally I hit the panic button and we heard his truck...it was on the complete other side of the parking lot. He thanked me and I went on about my business.

I felt bad however because I almost didn't stop. I was so focused on what I had to pick up that I almost just kept walking without seeing if I could help. Years ago I wouldn't have hesitated. It seems that as we age it is easy to focus more on ourselves and ignore others which is why you'll see footage of these muggings in big cities and people just walk by the wounded victim who is laying on the sidewalk.

Moral to the story: Don't let your humanity die just because so many others have allowed theirs to.
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T
Years ago you wouldn't have hesitated...What was your hesitation? In breaking stride to assess another's situation, which you wouldn't have done when younger? Usually it's younger people who are less observant or likely to break routine to help an old lady cross the street, etc.
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TRG
Kinda reminds me of a verse from an old John Prine song.

So if you're walking down the street sometime
And spot some hollow ancient eyes
Please don't just pass 'em by and stare as if you didn't care
Say, "Hello in there, hello"


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Jimbo
Thought some might find this encouraging. It turned out good but I still feel a little bad about it.
Had to drop by Walmart on my way to the store this morning, I had enough time but no time to spare either. As I was walking across the parking lot I noticed an older gent pushing his buggy with a confused look on his face. I said hello as I passed but he didn't respond...something was bothering him. I kept walking and then stopped and chided myself for being in too much of a rush. I turned around and asked him if he needed some help. Turned out he had NO idea where he had parked his truck. He told what color and model and looked around...nothing. I asked him if he had tried his key fob, he wasn't sure what I was talking about and got it out and handed it to me. Hit the lock and listened for a horn like my F150 does. Nothing. Finally I hit the panic button and we heard his truck...it was on the complete other side of the parking lot. He thanked me and I went on about my business.

I felt bad however because I almost didn't stop. I was so focused on what I had to pick up that I almost just kept walking without seeing if I could help. Years ago I wouldn't have hesitated. It seems that as we age it is easy to focus more on ourselves and ignore others which is why you'll see footage of these muggings in big cities and people just walk by the wounded victim who is laying on the sidewalk.

Moral to the story: Don't let your humanity die just because so many others have allowed theirs to.
Actually, I think it's a bit different ... as we age, we do what we need to ... I being retired, don't leave home as early as I would other wise have, some day I have a ton of stops to make, others just a few ...

I think the problem is the generations behind us are all about themselves and generally could care less about others ...

Thats not everyone behind us, but I would guess a majority ...

There comes a time in life that you decide your going to do whats Right, or not ...
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