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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have had a Mitsubishi (WS-55313) rear projection
HDTV for about a year. The picture with standard
cable was not good. Last fall, I tried digital cable
(Cox) and the HD channels were excellent and the
digital channels were quite a bit better than
standard. But the majority of the channels that I
actually watch were not broadcast in digital. And the
non-digital channels actually looked worse with
digital cable. (??)

Thinking that digital signals were the answer, I had
Dish Network satellite installed today. The satellite
looks fine on the conventional TV's but not the HDTV.
The HD channels are good but the digital channels are
just as bad as the standard (non-digital) channels
were with digital cable. The faces look very grainy.
Picture can't seem to keep up with fast action like
football. The installer agreed and we tried a number
of things: switching between 480 and 1080i and running
the signal from the non-HD receiver. The installer
office tech said that Dish's signal is 720P and my TV
does not support that. He says there is compression
going on to convert to either 480 or 1080. He says
that if a TV does not have 720P, it is "simulated" HD.
I have not heard that term but it sounds bogus to me.
I have heard of Enhanced definition TV's that try to
upconvert? the signal to near HD quality but that is
not what I have.

Do you have any idea what the problem could be and if
there is a work-around. I have a 3 day grace period
to have them remove the dish if I am not satisfied.
But if cable doesn't work and neither does satellite,
I don't know of any other option for getting an
acceptable picture.
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planetstress, I have your set's big brother, a WS-55613. I am using my 6000 connected via component cables, and I'm pretty pleased with the SD channels for the most part. Am I correct in assuming your local channels are coming via Dish and not over-the-air (OTA) via a TV antenna? If so, then Dish is severely compressing the signal to make all your local market channels fit into the space available on the satellite.

One problem a lot of people have with their TVs is the Sharpness too high. Press the "Video" button on the remote until you see this, then try adjusting Sharpness down (left) until you can live with what you see.

You might get better picture quality if you can tune in your local channels via Digital OTA television broadcasts. Check out the Local DTV station guide over on the AVS Forum for information about local DTV reception in your market area.
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Right now, I don't have any locals because there is apparently something wrong with the satellite that carries them. But they are going to be via Dish, not OTA antenna. I had requested one so I could get my locals in HD but they tried to discourage me from getting one even saying the locals would be carried on HD on the dish in near future. Anyway, I don't know if the locals are better or worse than the other SD signals because I don't have any for comparison.

I got a black screen last night after setting the receiver to 720P which my TV does not support so I couldn't even see a picture to reset it. Dish guy told me to run RCA cables from video out to one of my non digital inputs on the TV to reset to 1080i. He also said I could watch the SD channels off that input and toggle my TV input back and forth from the DTV to "VCR1" jacks for HD vs SD channels. Not very elegant but it did seem to improve the SD picture a little. Still very blurry for fast action sports. I will try turning down sharpness tonight to see if that helps. Also try the calibration disk to see if that helps.
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planestress said:
Right now, I don't have any locals because there is apparently something wrong with the satellite that carries them. But they are going to be via Dish, not OTA antenna. I had requested one so I could get my locals in HD but they tried to discourage me from getting one even saying the locals would be carried on HD on the dish in near future. Anyway, I don't know if the locals are better or worse than the other SD signals because I don't have any for comparison.

I got a black screen last night after setting the receiver to 720P which my TV does not support so I couldn't even see a picture to reset it. Dish guy told me to run RCA cables from video out to one of my non digital inputs on the TV to reset to 1080i. He also said I could watch the SD channels off that input and toggle my TV input back and forth from the DTV to "VCR1" jacks for HD vs SD channels. Not very elegant but it did seem to improve the SD picture a little. Still very blurry for fast action sports. I will try turning down sharpness tonight to see if that helps. Also try the calibration disk to see if that helps.

If you have an HD receiver, getting your locals over OTA if they are digital will greatly improve your local SD PQ. Why? Well the SD is being upcast at the source. Also there is know a lot more local HD available in a lot of areas and having OTA HD is a must if you can get it and have and HD recevier in my opinion. My guess is It will be a long time before Dish offers local HDs. If you mainly watch local channels and can make digital OTA happen, I suggest doing it.

Did you try s-video yet? It should give you a step up in PQ form composite.
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I did try the s-video and it helped a little - I think that's mostly due to inputing the signal in the non-digital jacks instead of the DTV inputs.

My local Dish installer suggested I try running a video out to my VCR and then back to the TV. He said something about the RF output from the VCR might be better. I tried this but got a "No Signal" message on the TV so I may not have hooked it up right. Has anyone heard of trying this? I didn't really understand his explanation of why it should help. He also offered to bring out a 301 receiver - he thought it would give a better picture for the SD channels. Again, he lost me during his explanation but he seems willing to try some things to improve the PQ. Anyone have any thoughts on either of these ideas? Thanks
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planestress said:
I did try the s-video and it helped a little - I think that's mostly due to inputing the signal in the non-digital jacks instead of the DTV inputs.

My local Dish installer suggested I try running a video out to my VCR and then back to the TV. He said something about the RF output from the VCR might be better. I tried this but got a "No Signal" message on the TV so I may not have hooked it up right. Has anyone heard of trying this? I didn't really understand his explanation of why it should help. He also offered to bring out a 301 receiver - he thought it would give a better picture for the SD channels. Again, he lost me during his explanation but he seems willing to try some things to improve the PQ. Anyone have any thoughts on either of these ideas? Thanks

Here is the how I see Input signal PQ scale. Top being worse. THis is just a rule of thumb and their are other factors involved.

Coax RF
Composite
s-video
Component
DVI

The s-video test was to take out the 811 scaler and use your T.V. scaler. I don't think the VCR things is going to make things any better. For SD you best shot should be s-video into yoru TV. Assuming that your RPTV as a better scaler which they usually do.

The only other things to try and "Tune your TV", try a power conditionar, and sit further back from the set. ;)
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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The Long Run - The Eagles
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.