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921 OTA Guide Information

There has been a great deal of discussion over at the DBSTalk 921 forum regarding the bug/requirement that one need to subscribe to the Dish locals package to get OTA Guide data.
Most of us who have purchased the 921 did so because of it's claim to integrate OTA locals and Satellite channels in to a single receiver with an integrated Program Guide. Most of us have no need for the Dish locals which are SD, since we purchased the 921 in order to get HD locals OTA. The December 211 release of the software fixed the bug which enabled OTA information to be displayed in the guide , but in order to get the OTA local guide information imposed the need to subscribe to the Dish locals package. We were already paying a DVR fee of $5/month to get the Guide data, now there is an additional fee of $6/month to get 5 channels of OTA Guide data.
I would like an official answer from Dish is this a bug, or are they intentionally increasing the monthly fees for 921 users?
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In addition to that, those with distant locals don't get OTA guide data, even with a subscription.

In addition to that, we don't have any subchannel guide data.

In addition to that, the 811 does have OTA guide data, with sub channel data, and it is all free.

The 811 and 921 came out at roughly the same time, with the same promises. The 811 is technically two months older, however, it is not in a class that somehow grandfathered it from a fee which the 921 is subject to. VOD fees are waived for grandfathered DVRs, however, that isn't the case for the 921 and the 811. In the case of VOD fees, they said publically that all DVRs from after the 501, 508, and 721 will have VOD fees. No such statement has been made about over the air guide data. They did it right on the 811, and they gave 921 users the shaft.

How many times do we have to pay for this stuff anyway? The 811 has no VOD fee does it? It still gets guide data, even without a fee like that. However, there is a $5/mo fee that is bult into the SD packages. I dropped AT60, and I am still charged that $5 fee. It seems to me that we 921 users are being charged this $5/mo service fee + $5/mo VOD fee + $6/mo for a local subscription fee. $16/mo for a buggy piece of rubbish is not a good way to treat customers. It isn't the way to charge for SUB-STANDARD guide data!

I personally harassed dish for a few weeks on the phone. I called them many times. They finally gave me a two month credit for locals. When that two months is up, I will start callling them again.
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I see that Dish has dropped the price of the 921 to $549. I don't know if there is a catch, but after hearing that I need the locals package to get the OTA guide I'm thinking I'll pass.

I don't need SD locals, but I figure most of the HD material I would like to timeshift is OTA.
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I can't add locals to my programming from DISH without dropping one of my distant stations. I already get two distant networks and since my LA CBS-HD is not one of my distant network cities, DISH claims they cannot legally provide network programming to more than three different cities. If I want to sub to my SD local network stations, this would be more than three different network cities and I must be willing to drop one of my distant stations or my LA CBS-HD station that I get at no extra cost.

I'm not willing to drop any of distant networks just to pay extra for locals every month for which I really won't watch through DISH just to get the OTA program guide on the 921 but works fine on my 811 receiver.

How many people are going to sub or re-sub to their locals just to get the program guide on the 921?

What is the $4.98 DVR fee for if you can't get the OTA program guide or record the current program on your OTA digital station and watch/record another sat station at the same time?

Is this DISH letting us know how much they care for their high-end customers?
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/28/2026

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Additional tabs provide:​
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

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The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
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RIP Patrick Stewart

Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Patrick Stewart, ‘Star Trek’ Captain and ‘X-Men’ Superhero, Dies at 86

He’s forever known for playing Jean-Luc Picard and Charles Xavier, whom he “admired for their morality, for their kindness, for their sensitivity, for their compassion.”
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Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.
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