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I have had Dish for about 6 months now. Have the 522 DVR on 2 TV downstairs and 2 TVs upstairs on a 322. Had a couple of quirky issues in the beginning but nothing that totally ruined my TV viewing. I have had 2 timers set to record every day since I got it and NEVER ONCE has it failed to record the program. Every movie I set to record or anything has always been right on. It has even figured out that one of the shows has had a some time adjustments based on the holidays and it automatically picked them up without me having to do anything. And that was at the time I set it to record at a specific time and channel but it knew the show and recorded it anyway an hour early. Now with the software updates, it adds so much more functionality to it. I have not touched it since I got it in June.
I always see the "I Hate Dish" or "I Hate Directv" threads but if some people would take the time to learn the equipment, how it works and what to do if something goes wrong then alot of the problems might be easily solved. I was a Directv subscriber for 5 years. Went to cable (apartment with no south view) and now to Dish. I hated cable. For what I got for the money it was crap. But with satellite, you get so much more bang for the buck regardless of the company. I love Dish and I loved Directv. I still get Sunday Ticket. I really dont have a problem with either system. I don't work for Dish or Directv, just a consumer who has been pleased with both companies. Maybe I have just been lucky. :)
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reddice
I agree with the post count. It does not matter how many posts you have. I do more reading than posting anyway.

As for the 508 it has never missed a recording. The 522 worries me if I switch back. I just might get a 510. I will miss the duel tuning but won't need it with the extra supers. The DTVTivo also never missed a recording. It is just the bugs and less features that bothers me with the DTVTivo. Do like the list features. Found a show I was looking for.
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I have noticed a plethora of comments -- in numerous threads -- that seem to imply that to be credible, one must have made many, many posts. I would like to offer my opinion that there is no correlation between the number of posts one has made and the credibility and/or worth of the comments made by the person posting.

I, for one, have 30+ posts (I know I saved some from checking). Prior to ANY posting to this fine website, I read the valuable (and some not-so-valuable) posts for months. Then I felt the need to ask for assistance on an issue, so I joined and posted. I would like to think that it wouldn't have mattered whether I had just joined, or was a guest, or was a first-time user of this fine board. I would hope that my comments/questions would be welcomed equally by all.

Please understand that I'm not picking on any one in particular. Each person is entitled to his/her own opinions. And for me, anyway, I enjoy reading others' comments, even if I don't agree with them. When that's the case, I may challenge their thoughts, but I don't use the number of posts as an indicator of the worth of those thoughts.

I apologize for the rant.

Here is my thoughts on posts. argue if you want i will not get aggravated. Very frequently (about once a day) someone new will register... post hate comments get banned and the cycle starts again. Less than say 10 posts with a Hate comment generally (only generally not always) indicates a troll.

That Said I apologize if I hurt anyones feelings.

To address what brought me to that opinion

reddice said:
Sorry I am going to say it but you got stupid people that have no problems cancel Dish to go to DirecTV which is worse. You get less channels, pay more. The channel layout is terrible, stupid PPV's in the 100's, shopping channels all over the place, news channels all over the place and tons of blank channels and DTV channels with nothing on. Crappy music channels. Bad rain fade. A crappy Tivo that has a pathetic 30 minute buffer and a real annoying bug (b&w picture).

I actually get about the same channels (Ide prefer better PQ anyway) I was getting with dish pay about the same. The PQ (To ME) is a drastic difference. With all of my Directv receivers I can ADJUST the channel list as I like. Including ordering. This blows Dish's Ascending/Descending choice out of the water. Heck ther eis even a logo guide on my HD receiver. Those blank channels dont take up any places in my guide... I can turn them off. with Dish it was a headache. If you had rain fade your dish wasnt aimed right... plain and simple... I sat and was watching TV and it was raining so hard I couldnt see the street out my window. my signal was 89 on 105 at that point. never lost signal. With dish (I dont know if dish uses less power or what) i would have been lucky to be in the 60's on a day like taht and would have likely lost signal.

Tivo takes getting used to. But in trade for the 30 minute buffer (there is a way around it but for arguments sake lets stick with stock) you get NBR on all models, Season Passes that work, Timers that work (522 and 921 mainly dont always work), Wishlists (this is an outstanding feature), the Tivo Guide (not the slow one), Folders (the R10 but soon to be the rest), 2 tuners on all units, Unix Based, Suggestions that are accurate, etc, etc. To me the Tivo Software was a true assett. and I dont have to pay 5 dollars per DVR (i had 3) instead I pay 5 dollars for all of mine. Oh and did I mention taht the HD Directivo has OTA guide data.


that said... Dish I hemmouraging customers... There are reasonons for this.

Another big reason for me switching is that I dont have to go around rebooting my receives every day. Hell I havent rebooted since day 2.
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reddice said:
I agree with the post count. It does not matter how many posts you have. I do more reading than posting anyway.

As for the 508 it has never missed a recording. The 522 worries me if I switch back. I just might get a 510. I will miss the duel tuning but won't need it with the extra supers. The DTVTivo also never missed a recording. It is just the bugs and less features that bothers me with the DTVTivo. Do like the list features. Found a show I was looking for.

what less features are you talking about. Im pretty sure it has more features... what am i missing?
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Grandude said:
Not long from now, all TVs will be HD and all local broadcasts will be HD. Those of us on the cutting edge of HD who do all the griping and complaining will end
up providing you the final results of our quest which will be much better HDTV for the latecomers and average users.
Be thankful that we are here and complaining.........
(ranting from my small soapbox) :D

I doubt that considering all the programs I like are not already in HD and if they ever are in HD they'll be upconverted. Also I doubt HD can do much for cartoons (yes I watch cartoons!). I imagine if I watched the broadcast networks and sports I would care about things in HD but again I don't and even if everyone has an HDTV there is no promise that they'll do everything in HD they just have to do a digital signal OTA and cable/satellite is exempt from that. I doubt Cartoon Network, GSN, Nicktoons and Discovery Times are going to rush out and pay to upconvert their programming.
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reddice said:
Sorry I am going to say it but you got stupid people that have no problems cancel Dish to go to DirecTV which is worse. You get less channels, pay more. The channel layout is terrible, stupid PPV's in the 100's, shopping channels all over the place, news channels all over the place and tons of blank channels and DTV channels with nothing on. Crappy music channels. Bad rain fade. A crappy Tivo that has a pathetic 30 minute buffer and a real annoying bug (b&w picture).
And yet, my switch to D* from E* has been nothing but good. The 'b&w' piucture bug affects only a small number of users (well, at least that's what they say in this DirecTvio Forum). PPVs in 100's? Wow, that's a real killer problem there. Crappy music channels? Just your opinion... I prefer D* music channels to the old Dish/Muzak offerings (but now they maybe are different with the Sirius stuff). 30 minute buffer? No problem with me, and I can make it longer if I want to.

We switched in March to Directv and HATE IT because of the problems we described above. When we had Dish we payed less and had more channels better layed out. We had no problems with the receivers and I would have taking the 508 I had anyday over the horrible Tivo. The thing was we had legacy switches which caused all of our problems. Now with Dish you have no commitment meaning unlike DirecTV you are not stuck with it for a year. We can get all PVR's. Right now we have to suffer with DirecTV but come March we will most likely be switching back.
Horrible Tivo eh? Tell your 508 to record all comedies with "Will Smith" in them, or to record the movie "Red Dust" if it's ever on - the 508's never had it (wishlists) and never will, now according to Dish.

I'll keep my 'horrible' DirecTivo, thank you- I had to endure Dish's first DVR, the Dishplayer 7100/7200, an experience I've never had to struggle through with DirecTivos. D* knows how to design, debug and implement DBS hardware right; Dish just uses customers for beta testers. Anyone that's been through the first year of any Dish DVR will probably have a rocky tale to tell.

I didn't hate Dish when I left... and now, I just prefer DirecTV.

A former 'Charlie Cheerleader', from Jul. 1996 thru Oct. 2003.

Added note:If you DirecTivo was going from color to B&W, then you were running it too darn hot - see last few posts in this topic.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.