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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers
Day 3 has come and gone, and boy are my feet killing me. :)

The day started this morning with a Dish Network Press Conference, The conference was held in a room with a basic wooden podium.

The conference opened with Marc Lumpkin introducing Charlie Ergen, Charlie however was mingling in the crowd and acted like he did not know he was supposed to talk and came on stage.

Charlie did his normal Charlie thing in telling the press why his company was better then everyone elses. After Charlie talked he then took questions from the press.

When asked about MPEG4 Charlie did say that all HD receivers would need to be replaced, however he did say that a replacement could be done for little to no cost if the customer is a HD customer.

He also mentioned that while no new HD content is planned until the fall, he may "have" to put up some additional HD channels in MPEG2 format in the future.

Charlie for some reason did not want to take a question from me, Marc Lumpkin looked uncomfortable fearing he would call on me and I would ask a bad question.

After Charlie Spoke, Michael Schwimmer was introduced, Michael explained Dish's Video on Demand service which did not sound anything like Video on Demand to myself or any of the other press I spoke with after the conference. Instead it would be a "Dish Pass" which someone at Dish Network would program all DVR's to record their own pre selected TV shows and movies.

Michael also showed us Dish's "Mosaic" and touted they were the first in the US to offer the Interactive Mosaic (DirecTV just introduce its MIX which is the same idea but in my humble opinion done better) Dish will be copying DirecTV by offering a News Mosaic Soon.

We were also shown some new Interactive features, including Karaoke which is still listed as coming soon as well as a new horse racing wagering interactive service which operates in conjunction with the TVG Network.

Mark Jackson then came out and gave us the tech lowdown.

He told us about the new Dishplayer DVR 625, which is just a 522 with a larger hard drive and software which supports Video On Demand. The 625 can record up to 100 hours of video, and it can also record another 100 hours of Dish VOD programming.

Mark Jackson then told us about the great new 942. They showed a screen shot of its new program guide which was enhanced for 16 x 9 screens. This screen shot looked great and is a great use for a 16x9 screen.

Mark then showed us a couple of new items including two portable DVR's. As you may remember in the past Dish has shown a "Dish Pod" portable screen. The units shown were not the actual units which Dish will be making, infact one looked like a RCA or Archos unit I have played with before. I do not expect this product to make it to the market in 2005.

Mark then took questions and I managed to get one in, I ask Mark if the new 942 would be upgradable to MPEG4 and the answer was NO. Many of the news people noted this and the ones I talked with stated what I have been thinking for a long time, the 942 is going to be obsoluite before it hits the streets.

BTW they did announce that the 942 would be available for sale at a MSRP of $749, plus it will be available in select DHA packages.

They handed out a press kit which included the 2005 Dish Network Product Collection, and in it are the following receivers....

Dish 311, Dish 322, DishPlayer DVR 510, DishPlater DVR 522, DishPlayer DVR 625, Dish 811 HD, Dish DishPlayer 942 HD.

Gone from the product list from 2004 include the Dish 111, Dish 721 and the Dish 921.

No mention of the price increase was mentioned at the Press Conference.

After Dish Networks press conference ended it was a rush down the hall to the DirecTV Press Conference. This press conference was also in a room, however DirecTV had it all setup, with a nice glass podium with a Plasma screen in front of it and a big screen used for showing DirecTV videos, and they had a backdrop behind the stage with the DirecTV logos. In addition for making their press conference feel like a event, DirecTV also gave out boxed lunches to everyone in attendence.

Because it is getting late I will highlight the key points.

1 DirecTV will be launching HD locals this Summer in MPEG 4 format. They will launch HD locals in 12 cities at first. Those first cities are as follows...

New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philidelphia, Boston, San Francisco, Dallas, Washington DC, Atlanta, Detroit, Houston and Tampa.

DirecTV will be introducing its own DVR and Home Media Option. (See attached photos for more details)

Plus they demoed the MIX channels and new Interactive channels, they also showed us a new MIX / Interactive channel for the NFL Sunday Ticket which puts you in the action, if your a football fan your going to love this!

After the DirecTV press conference I shot down to the VOOM Booth and was given an impressive demo of VOOM's upcoming DVR product, what makes the VOOM DVR unique is you make your own TV channels. For example if you like Sinefield you can set the unit to record all the Sinefield episodes and all the shows can be seen on their own channel (IE the Sienfield Channel, Channel 901) to me this idea is better then just having all recorded items in one area, and it also is better then having folders. When you want to watch Seinfield you know you can tune to channel 901 for Seinfield. (And its also listed in the guide with all the other channels.)

The VOOM DVR was not perfect, it had problems with basic functions, but it worked great on all the hard features. I am told that the software is 85+% done, the hardware is comeplete and ready. I honestly believe VOOM will be able to get the DVR out the door by the end of March.

As you may have seen VOOM also mentioned today that they plan on offering up to 70 HD channels by March. Things are looking up for VOOM.

It was a busy day, I must have walked 15 miles today, while walking around I stopped by the DirecTV booth and saw the first actual MPEG4 broadcast, this was an actual LIVE Satellite MPEG4 broadcast. I also ran into DirecTV's Tanya Meme who was nice enough to pose for some photos.

While walking around looking for SBC's booth to check out the new 2Wire receiver I ran into Tom Arnold at the XAVIX booth. This guy is one friendly guy who enjoys having fun. I got to spend about 5 minutes talking with Tom.

And that was my day today...

I never did find the SBC booth but I will look tommorow, and also I will be paying a visit to the TimeTrax booth as well. More tommorow.

Also look for video later this weekend and next week (I dont have time to edit video here and our broadband here is slower then a 1200 baud modem at times) :D Thanks for your understanding.

Here are some photos. Enjoy!
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Tanya

skidog said:
I'm really interested in the equipement with the long dark hair, sexy smile, beautiful eyes and oh wait sorry I went off topic :D


Skidog, that's Tanya Meme, the single best reason to watch "Sell This House" on A&E Sunday afternoons. :)
hdtvtechno
If u all want to see some more products from CES, The Screen Savers G4techtv channel are showing some stuff too, they showed the NEW Toshiba HD DVD players, which is going to be out by 3rd Qr 2005 and price $1000, IF you look again, if u catch it, im sure u can see it again on the repeat shows.
cbearnm
A couple of notes about the D* booth (really, a small city)
The video wall was phenomenal for the football games on Saturday. I was able to catch most of the StL/Sea game and the image was really nice. Scott, did you get any specs on it? Was it projection or LED or what?
While I was watching the HMO (they called it Home Media Center, right?) presentation, the farthest left screen was playing a Voom commercial and the presenter deftly shifted attention to the farthest right screen. Probably part of the script, but good timing regardless.
My flight out of Albuquerque was delayed (Friday) for 1 1/2 hours because of the snow in LV.
Scott, I saw you and was going to say Hi, but you were busy and when I turned around you disappeared. Maybe next year.
Foxbat
Scott Greczkowski said:
Here are some photos. Enjoy!
Scott, did you hear when the new mesh SuperDish would be available for installation, or is it already in the field? I would think this should reduce wind loading and be lower in weight.
J
Scott Greczkowski said:
Michael also showed us Dish's "Mosaic" and touted they were the first in the US to offer the Interactive Mosaic (DirecTV just introduce its MIX which is the same idea but in my humble opinion done better) Dish will be copying DirecTV by offering a News Mosaic Soon.
I was planing on taking major issue with that, but after reading more of the thread I'll only take minor issue ... :D

E* did mosaics first - for the olympics and election - so the issue of D* copying E* seems a bit of a stretch (although a permanent mosaic is cool).

D*'s method of having a simple channel with multiple audio would allow for the missing feature of being able to DVR back and repeat something. It would be interesting to be able to go back and change audio and hear something different on the second play ...

The tickers and unique host content on D*'s version - and the availability of multiple mosaics - make the multi channels theirs. Even if they didn't really do them first. They seem to be more programmed of an offering - which is more expensive than a simple set it up and forget it mix. I hope it works well for them.

And it is good to see that screenshot of a dish News mosaic. I'll keep that channel warm! We asked for it last year when the Olympic mosaic was on. (In fact, if anyone should get the credit for News and Sports mosaic it should be the posters of DBSTalk and SatelliteGuys who asked for it all last summer!)

Of course, I'd like CNN International too. :D

It would be nice if this mosaic became its own channel like 9500 instead of needing to go to DishHome to get there. That is another "D* did it better point". Oh well, the progress is in the right direction.

JL
osu1991
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osu1991
Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.
Foxbat
Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.
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annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
Foxbat
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes. 😕
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Shooz - Styx
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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The following is from Reddit. -
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/s/orzHBkmqQW


gemini.webp

There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/
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I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
Tom Speer
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.
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I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.
I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.
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I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.
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I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch
b4pjoe
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch
It is not adaptive. HDR is either always on or off. No in between. However with my Gemini on satellite everything looks much better with HDR on.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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jamieh1
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
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The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-...st-partnership-with-wink-in-southwest-florida
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:


2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
266​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
-1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
56​
18​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:
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Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago
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WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server
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WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server
Could be for the Heat since they have the rights to that.

Its always a surprise to see DTV carry subchannels...
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ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Nebugeater
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.


Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed
Bruce
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
dfergie
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teachsac
Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.
dfergie
First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)
teachsac
Loved the tribal🤣
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Happy with the outcome, he was annoying...