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JoeSp
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I have been watching the juggling between E*, D* and V*. I offer the following predictions.

1) Voom is not going to be bought out but it will enter into an agreement with both E* and D* to offer their HD content.

2) E* will make an offer to swap out HD MPEG 2 receivers for MPEG4 receivers at a ridiculously low cost (possibly no cost for those who currently pay for HD). They did this with the 811 initially for Dish Club members and long time Dish customers. I got mine for $149 and others purchased their's for even less.

3) When D* brings their new satellite online this spring and begins offering HD content in the top 12 markets Charlie will be doing the same thing only he won't be able to follow suit until the fall.

4) Any HD customers in the new HD coverage area will move to D* in droves.

5) While Voom will be offering many more channels both SD and HD, untill they move over to MPEG4 they will be plagued with diminishing PQ. They also will charge for the MPEG4 upgrade to their customers. Their deep pockets have been cut. This is how I came up with my number 1 prediction.

6) In July, we will all be looking at increases in cost for both programming and equipment as all satellite providers try to leap frog each other for HD customers.

7) In the end I believe that D* is going to come out on top. The reason is simple -- Rupert does not do second best very well -- His pockets are deep and by the showing at CES he is going to invest heavily.

8) Final prediction is that Bill Gates money is going to get him in the satellite business one way or the other. He is hell-bent on controling the lion's share of broadband in this country one way or the other. Perhaps XBOX2 will be his in? :)
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JoeSp said:
4) Any HD customers in the new HD coverage area will move to D* in droves.

i fall into this category.
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I find it amazing that folks actually think DirecTV will have their new satellite (Spaceway) launched and operational this spring when in fact I think it is optimistic for it to be launched by early summer 2005 and operational by fall.
The first Spaceway satellite scheduled for launch is in April 2005 on an Ariane 5 but according to the LyngSat site there are three other Ariane 5 launches before it as indicated by this website:

http://www.lyngsat.com/launches/2005.html

In addition, from the SpaceFlightNow website there is another Ariane 5 launch scheduled prior to Spaceway, that being the XTAR-EUR mission as indicated by this website:

http://spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

Admittedly the websites' schedules don't agree but the XTAR-EUR mission does not have a commercial communication satellite on it so it wouldn't show on the LyngSat site. So there are four other Ariane 5 missions scheduled prior to the launch of the first Spaceway. Unless one or probably two of these missions are postponed significantly, I can't see Spaceway being launched in April.

In regards to prediction 4) above, I think there are many folks who currently get HD via satellite have OTA antennas for their locals and like me are unwilling to pay the expected $7-10 a month for HD locals via satellite.
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JoeSp said:
I have been watching the juggling between E*, D* and V*. I offer the following predictions.

1) Voom is not going to be bought out but it will enter into an agreement with both E* and D* to offer their HD content.
I agree that Voom will not be bought due to cash flow issues and regulatory delays. D* is not a good partner as they don't use MPEG2 or MPEG4 technology. Any HD will have to be on their own satellites and D* doesn't have the room without going to a Ka dish setup. E* CAN use MPEG2 and does have capacity for additional HD coming available on 105. But unless V* is near death and makes a real sweet deal I do not expect any agreement until the fall when V* will be (I predict) near death.
JoeSp said:
2) E* will make an offer to swap out HD MPEG 2 receivers for MPEG4 receivers at a ridiculously low cost (possibly no cost for those who currently pay for HD). They did this with the 811 initially for Dish Club members and long time Dish customers. I got mine for $149 and others purchased their's for even less.
E* will not swap out receivers. What do you expect them to do with the NEW $750 receivers they just introduced? Toss them?
JoeSp said:
3) When D* brings their new satellite online this spring and begins offering HD content in the top 12 markets Charlie will be doing the same thing only he won't be able to follow suit until the fall.
D*'s new satellites will not be brought online. I predict the first set of HD locals will be offered by V*/E* in 2006.
JoeSp said:
4) Any HD customers in the new HD coverage area will move to D* in droves.
Only possible if you assume that #3 will happen. I predict that this will be a very frustrating year for HD viewers.
JoeSp said:
5) While Voom will be offering many more channels both SD and HD, untill they move over to MPEG4 they will be plagued with diminishing PQ. They also will charge for the MPEG4 upgrade to their customers. Their deep pockets have been cut. This is how I came up with my number 1 prediction.
I predict Voom will make no major changes because they will not want to spend ANY capital on improvements while awaiting sale. Voom will stagnate until they finally get to a price E* can afford. Voom will not license their complete programming to others (why would they undercut their own service offering?) until the fall when economics make that unavoidable.
JoeSp said:
6) In July, we will all be looking at increases in cost for both programming and equipment as all satellite providers try to leap frog each other for HD customers.
Only on HD packages, and only if content is added beyond todays offering.
JoeSp said:
7) In the end I believe that D* is going to come out on top. The reason is simple -- Rupert does not do second best very well -- His pockets are deep and by the showing at CES he is going to invest heavily.
While D* has best intentions, their attempts to get DirecTV7s online in 2003 (which only became a success in 2004) shows that they are not immune to problems.
JoeSp said:
8) Final prediction is that Bill Gates money is going to get him in the satellite business one way or the other. He is hell-bent on controling the lion's share of broadband in this country one way or the other. Perhaps XBOX2 will be his in? :)
If Mr Bill gets into satellite TV it will be through one of two methods:
1) reselling and rebranding either E* or D*'s packages (I'd bet E*, since E*'s Ka access would allow for satellite internet as well.)
2) buying Voom. Someone is going to do it eventually and Gates has the deep pockets to do it. In addition, a non-DBS company can more easily buy a DBS company. The available slots at 166 and 175 make V* worth buying.

In addition to your predictions:
9) All existing Dish500 local markets will remain on Dish500 with "extra locals" moved in from the wings in the fall (E10 activation). Many SuperDish105 local markets will move to Dish500 as well.

10) Pending 9, SD105 will be used for national HD (late 2005) and larger market Central US HD signals (in 2006). Space freed on 61.5 moving locals will be used for Eastern US HDs in 2006 and space on 148 will be used for some Western US HDs in 2006.

11) A new E* satellite for 157 will be announced in 2005 serving Alaska and Hawaii. It won't be up in 2005, but E* will begin some service from that location using whatever satellite becomes available. Eventually (2006) AT180 and below will be available from 148/157, as well as all Alaskan and Hawaiian SD and HD channels. It is beyond 2005, but it is coming.

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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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The Long Run - The Eagles
Gary Toma
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.