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Well, the honeymoon is over. I've had my 921 since Dec 23rd. Initially I thought it was OK. I was working out some issues about OTA reception on my own, so really wasn't using the 921 with OTA - it went directly to my integrated HD tuner for my Toshiba DLP. However, I now have all my antenna stuff ironed out. Connected to the 921, spent some time setting it up, and thought it was pretty cool.

Now the bad stuff. The damn thing is absolutely unreliable with OTA - period. I can't begin to count the number of times I've had the damn unit lock up, usually requiring it to be powered of. Sometimes, nothing other than pulling the power plug solves it. In some cases, when I plug it back in, it's still hosed.

Dish has been absolutely useless with support. I'm on hold *again*. So far, it's 30 minutes on hold (OK, 29min 45sec so far) on Sunday night at 10:45pm. I'm pretty close to sending it back. I'm curious - how many people are actually using this unit for OTA HD recording reliably? I'm wondering if it's just a bad unit, or if the design and software are systemically poor.

For those of you who were complaining previously and who I thought were just unlucky or hadn't set it up right, I've now seen the light. Considering the cost and what appears to be extremely poor quality, I may finally be considering just getting rid of Dishnet once and for all. I don't think that Adelphia Cable has as good PQ, and don't like the interface for their DVR, BUT if I can't use HD DVR Dishnet is absolutely worthless to me.
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jgra said:
I ordered the 921 about a week ago I still have not received mine but if mine is not as good as it says it is on there website. I promise I will close my account request every penny back make so much noise and make sure I tell everyone I know about how bad dishnetwork is. Nonetheless I am going to give a shot. I actually moved to dish from directv about I think 6 months ago. Directv with Tivo was so much better very user friendly and the like.

Why did you move to Dish from DTV if DTV w/Tivo was so much better?
K
Yeah bye bye to my 921 as well

i installed mine Xmas day and on 26th was on phone with them for intermittent audio probelms and locking up. If I am watching OTA HD content and rewind a bit to watch it fromt he beginning about every 2-3 minutes the sound drops for a second. if I rewind back the audio is there so I know it made it to the HDD. Then on occasion the system locks fromt he DVR menu then the DVR and MENU buttons don't do anything, I can power off for 2-5 minutes whcih usually fress it up or pull power and reboot. Who said Linux is faster, this dish takes longer to boot then my old Pentium 90 with 128MB and Windows NT!! I have spent over 5 hours ont he phone with Dish since 12/26 and they sent me a refurb I refused, I wanted brand new, they said Ok (after much debate and escalation) and what do I get, another refurb! So last night I told them 2nd refurb on way back and give me an RMA for my purchse and send me paid shipping for it, I should not have to pay to ship your broken crap back to you! They agree, shipping labels on their way and then 921 will be gone. So now I either go Directv, or try another 921. I may try just getting a 921 from Radio Shack since I can return it locally if it is an issue. Or go back to my 501 until Voom HD DVR is out, but then I might be back with Dish if they buy Voom, yuck!
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Dishnet installed it. They use some new type of splitter - don't know the exact name for it. However, I really have no problems if I don't try to use OTAs, which to me seems to indicate that the splitter mechanism is not related to the problem.

smroycro said:
Do you have two separate rg6 lines hooked up to each satellite in tuner? If you are splitting that signal after the switch, that is what is causing your lock up problems (at least in part).
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I had my 921 installed on Dec. 20 the problems started almost immediately. Ever time I called to report problems about all I was told, was to reboot after waiting a long time. It baffles me that some people have had success with the 921, which makes me wonder if there is a H/W flaw in many units or are some of us just more demanding.

I expereinced many problems but the occasional jittery picture really worried me. I also lost gray bars in 480p overnite every nite or the format function in HD would lock up, so I had to reboot every AM and sometimes more often. Since Dish is dropping DishLinux I was afraid they will never get the bugs out of the 921. The 921 is now discontinued and the 211 software seems are is worse than a Microsoft Beta.

When the 921 was working OK I loved the picture in HD and even the SD looked better on my Sony XBR using component inputs rather than S-video with the 508.

Eventually they flagged me at tech support and said I could only talk to the 921 support team, but the 921 guys must always call you back and its phone tag for days.

I got sick of it and was really concerned about them EVER fixing so many bugs and designs flaws on an obsolete box with an OS they have moved away from. So I RMAed the unit, as they never even offered me a replacment. Its disconnected and waiting for mailing labels to go back.

Supposedly Dish promised to do NBR on this unit last year but have now said no NBR for the 921. Really disappointing.

The HD OTA and HD OTA recording did mostly work, but it puts the red dot on the Sat remapped local rather than the OTA digital and the guide is messed up for subchannels other than the -01. Really in a DVR 'MOSTLY works" does not cut it for me. I live in the LA area and almost all locals are broadcast in digital, so with SAT locals and OTA digital I probably had 50+ locals in the guide. So maybe that's why i saw more problems than some.

There are still things I like about Dish, but now I am back to my single tuner 508 and 501 and no NBR and of course no HD.

I'm thinking of switching to DTV with two new Tivo R10s. I know about the DTV Tivo split and the R10 are SD but they have 2 tuners and Tivo has of course NBR and more.

Time Warner Cable now offers HD DVRS but even with digital cable I hear reports of PQ problems. Cable PQ and support was so bad before I am scared to even try it again.

I felt $549 was a not a bad price for the 921 ($489 even better if you can find one at Costco) , but I have an odd hangup that the unit should work right no matter what the proice or they should commit to fixing it. Right now there are just too many bugs and/or design flaws IMHO. I hope they fix the problems for the people that are hang in there with the 921. It would really be great if the 921 got NBR too. But right now that's does seem to be the case.
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Agree exactly - except....!

I really want HD DVR, so I am dumping Dish period. I currently have both Adelphia SA8300HD and Dish 921 receivers active. So, I can compare them directly against each other. Bye Bye Dish. I also RMAd my unit, and am also waiting on mailing labels for the return.

Other than that, you are exactly on point with respect to how poorly dish has supported us, and the problems with accepting Charlies lame excuses.

tbeuthin said:
I had my 921 installed on Dec. 20 the problems started almost immediately. Ever time I called to report problems about all I was told, was to reboot after waiting a long time. It baffles me that some people have had success with the 921, which makes me wonder if there is a H/W flaw in many units or are some of us just more demanding.

I expereinced many problems but the occasional jittery picture really worried me. I also lost gray bars in 480p overnite every nite or the format function in HD would lock up, so I had to reboot every AM and sometimes more often. Since Dish is dropping DishLinux I was afraid they will never get the bugs out of the 921. The 921 is now discontinued and the 211 software seems are is worse than a Microsoft Beta.

When the 921 was working OK I loved the picture in HD and even the SD looked better on my Sony XBR using component inputs rather than S-video with the 508.

Eventually they flagged me at tech support and said I could only talk to the 921 support team, but the 921 guys must always call you back and its phone tag for days.

I got sick of it and was really concerned about them EVER fixing so many bugs and designs flaws on an obsolete box with an OS they have moved away from. So I RMAed the unit, as they never even offered me a replacment. Its disconnected and waiting for mailing labels to go back.

Supposedly Dish promised to do NBR on this unit last year but have now said no NBR for the 921. Really disappointing.

The HD OTA and HD OTA recording did mostly work, but it puts the red dot on the Sat remapped local rather than the OTA digital and the guide is messed up for subchannels other than the -01. Really in a DVR 'MOSTLY works" does not cut it for me. I live in the LA area and almost all locals are broadcast in digital, so with SAT locals and OTA digital I probably had 50+ locals in the guide. So maybe that's why i saw more problems than some.

There are still things I like about Dish, but now I am back to my single tuner 508 and 501 and no NBR and of course no HD.

I'm thinking of switching to DTV with two new Tivo R10s. I know about the DTV Tivo split and the R10 are SD but they have 2 tuners and Tivo has of course NBR and more.

Time Warner Cable now offers HD DVRS but even with digital cable I hear reports of PQ problems. Cable PQ and support was so bad before I am scared to even try it again.

I felt $549 was a not a bad price for the 921 ($489 even better if you can find one at Costco) , but I have an odd hangup that the unit should work right no matter what the proice or they should commit to fixing it. Right now there are just too many bugs and/or design flaws IMHO. I hope they fix the problems for the people that are hang in there with the 921. It would really be great if the 921 got NBR too. But right now that's does seem to be the case.
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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