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mario315
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Hispasat 30.0 W/ Pansat 9200-HD Questions

Hi everyone, I just got into FTA a few weeks ago after visiting a friend's house and seeing and loving his FTA set-up for picking up the Cuban and Spain channels off Hispasat 30.0 W... I live in Southern Florida so Hispasat is doable.....

My set-up is now complete and operational with 2 Pansat 9200-HD receivers and 2 Pansat 3500 receivers (all 4 are new)... I've got a Standard LNB and a 36" Ku dish giving me pretty good signal quality on Cuba, Spain, the Middle East, and Colombia (70%-75%)... I'm also getting 40% quality (avg.) on Argentina and Uruguay channels... My multi-switch is an Eagle Aspen powered DTV 4 x8....

So far so good, however.... there are 2 problems I've encountered:

1. The 3500 Receivers have scanned and show 1 Cuban Channel (ACN- a News Text Channel) with both video and audio, while the two 9200 Receivers show this channel in the Guide but there's no video nor audio. No matter how many times I scan (both blind and manual input of transponder) I get the same result from the two 9200's.... All the other 6 Cuban channels come in perfectly on both the 9200's and 3500's... But this 7th channel (ACN) is always missing on the 9200's (even though it's on the same transponder 11884 V/27.500 as the other 6 Cuban stations) ...

Additionally, the 3500's bring in the 9 Cuban radio stations perfectly but the 9200's show the 9 stations in the guide but there's no audio at all, so no Cuban radio at all from the 9200's.

Does anyone here have any idea why the 9200's are unable to bring in these Cuban stations (while the 3500's are able to) in a situation with pretty good signal quality ? Any trouble-shooting ideas will be most welcome !

2. The 4 stations from Argentina are coming in with only 1 audio channel on the two 9200 Receivers while the 3500's bring those in with the 2 audio channels.... I have the 9200's wired with component cables and the 3500's with S-video cables....

Again, any trouble-shooting ideas as to this audio issue will be most welcome !

Thanks so much... I'm looking very much forward to posting in these forums often now that I've joined this unique FTA "club"....
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Well the AZbox reports audio on all those TV and Radio channels as MPEG-2 and it does not have MPEG-1 Layer I or II even listed on the posible options so maybe someone with a PCI based system will be able to analize this further but as per the Pansat specs posted here and on their website apparently the 350 is able to decode MPEG-1 Layer I and II but the 9200HD only works with MPEG2 audio (it does not mention MEPG 1 layer 1or II). Contradictoriyly my AZ P+ list all audio on all channels as MP2 in the first screen but MP2 should not be confused as MPEG 2 since MP2 in the industry should refer to MPEG-1 layer II (and as such the famous MP3 is acctually MPEG1 Layer III)

So I am thinking that the radio channels and the ACN TV channel (basically a PC running a software with presentation slides and audio) are using the old MPEG-1 layer II for audio while the rest of the tv channels on the cuban mux probably use MPEG-2 for audio and video and since the 9200HD only claims MPEG-2 audio compatibility (which is backwards compatible in its specs but only to allow an MPEG1 only decoder to be able to decode the 2 channel stereo from an MPEG-2 source) therefore has no hardware or software to decode MPEG-1 Layer I or II. It will be interesting to compare this pansat 9200 versus other tv signals potentially using MPEG-1 Layer I or II. You shoudl let pansat know about this since they maybe can upgrade the software to allow MPEG-1 Layer I and II if that was the case.

All TV channels in Cuba use mono aural transmitters with the exception of the new addition Multivision (encrypted in the mux) as I read somewhere although only the FM national stations I beleive are stereo. The ACN channel is the creation of students from the Communications faculty (commun in this case as in journalists or public relations and the likes) therefore done with very limited resources so I suspect they are using old MPEG-1 equipment. This is all speculation as I have no means to analize the signal further too bad I got rid off the CW-650 premium as I remember that one listed the type of audio and video as well with more details.
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I think the AZbox and sathawk/solomend/openbox decodes some formats that are not listed in their specs, as I think it will also decode DTS audio.(at least the L-R stereo channels if a surround stream)
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The Azbox acctually lists not only DTS but also ACC (Bolivia TV on 55.5W uses ACC and it makes the CS8100HD do funny things) on the side of the cardboard box it comes inside.

I just checked with a friend's CW and all TV and Radio channels on the cuban mux use the same MPEG Layer II at 128kbps rate with the audio source digitized at 48 Khz. they are all Mono and only a few National Radio stations are Stereo like Progreso and CMBF (24x7 clasical music or relex music , it is called Radio Enciclopedia). Well I am trusting the CW list that info appropiately but that could not be the case. I really have no idea now what could be wrong or happening with the Pansat 9200HD and those channels on the cuban mux since all are the same and just a few are stereo as the only difference in their audio.

Maybe someone else can chime in and shed some light or a call to pansat and ask them.
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call to pansat and ask them
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I wonder how they could see the issue, as 30W is well below the horizon in CA? Nothing gets fixed unless a problem is reproducible.
(Sidebar) Brought my car to the shop twice. Said they checked this and that but couldn't "see" any problems. A few days after the last visit I took the service writer for a trip around the block. It's fixed now, but those first two trips to the shop cost a Franklin more than if they would have fixed it on the first trip.
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FaT Air said:
I think the AZbox and sathawk/solomend/openbox decodes some formats that are not listed in their specs, as I think it will also decode DTS audio.(at least the L-R stereo channels if a surround stream)
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When the Russian mux on 99 Ku was unencrypted, the Solomend would claim on the channel banner at the bottom of the screen that the sound was DTS. If you hit the Info key til you got to the signal meter and PIDs, it would claim that it was AAC. Maybe DTS incorporates AAC? I have no idea, but either way I was shocked to see that anybody was even broadcasting such a thing, let alone that a cheap box would decode it, unadvertised. I'm pretty sure this was even before it was upgraded to decode AC3!
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Prescription drug costs

Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.


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I run them through several different providers to see who has the lowest cost

Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

Also...

Homepage of Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drugs

Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug homepage. Provides safe, affordable medicine or medication with transparent low prices.
www.costplusdrugs.com

You can also price them through the CareCard and WellRx apps.

Sometimes Amazon Pharmacy is cheapest.
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TrumpRx?!?

I went on Medicare recently (not an "advantage" plan) and my prescriptions at HyVee were very low out of pocket. The clerk said she was putting them on "Good Rx".
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TrumpRx?!?
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Scripts arrive in a gold paper sack.
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Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx
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I'm fortunate and don't take any medications. A couple years ago I had to take some antibiotics and used the GoodRx app. Went to Walmart and the person behind the desk knew me and told me to just buy them outright....the GoodRx price was a LOT higher. She said they aren't supposed to tell customers when they see they are being screwed.
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That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?
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That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?
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Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.
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Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.
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Those are two of the three I take.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

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Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
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My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Week Six Balls and Goats and WTH is Going On in The NFL??

Browns. 1st place in the North. Yup. Believe it or not

Chiefs. Undefeated.

Titans. Won a game ! .... Colts I know, but still.

Saints. Won a game after a while.

Steelers. Having the same season they always have. They somehow find wins on their way to an unceremonial 1st round exit. Mike Tomlin is proud.

Cards. Won a game without scoring a single touchdown

Broncos. How they manage to win games with the dogshit offense they have should be studied.

Bears. Caleb's back and so is their mojo.


Goats

NFC East. For the 2nd straight week no team from this clown show of a division won a game. Eagles are cooked without Hurts. Who's not that good anyway. Commanders suck, Dallas is well ..... Dallas and the Giants have no QB.

Ravens. Lamar is out (as usual). But still. Losing to the Browns is never ok.

Chargers. Still can't win.

Rams. So much for the powerhouse team. They are 2 games under .500

Seattle. Lost to the offenseless Broncos.
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rvvaquero said:
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
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Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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Hello again

I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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