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jdsabin1

Last reply Jan 21, 2005 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

With the 942, why would anyone buy a 921?

Supposedly, the last Charlie Chat featured the comment that there is no future for the 921, and that the 942 would be available for lease in February.

With this information, and the fact that MPEG4 is around the corner with the 921 not being compatible, why in the world would anyone pay $500+ for the 921?

I was all set to get the 921 right now but if I can lease the 942 that seems to be the obvious way to go, even *if* I have to wait months (let's face it, Dish hasn't been very good at making timelines for equipment they promised).

Curious to know what I'm missing here. The 921 has some value with the DVR features and HD, but will Dish close them out cheap now?

Strange days indeed.

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WeeJavaDude

Jan 18, 2005

jdsabin1 said:
I understand your logic but in fact on Charlie Chat, here was the dialogue:

Phone: Lonnie – when will the 921 be available for lease?
Answer – Jim: Never. The 942 will be available for lease. Watch Tech Forum in February. The 921 will be phased out to the 942.

So it does look like it is in fact official that we'll see a 942 for lease.

The real question is *when* will the 942 be actually available to lease? I am willing to wait to the end of February or so but then it's either Dish will have the 921/942 to lease to me or I am jumping ship to D*. I currently pay $100+ for programming anyway and am willing to pay a bit more for HD stuff. I just got a quote back from a sponsor here that gave me incredible pricing on a new D* HD DVR setup with addt'l HD receivers that is going to be hard to resist, especially when D*'s HD seems to be a step up, and if past performance is any indicator, I buy their HD DVR today, D* will easily and efficiently deal with me should the need arise to swap it out (MPEG4 issue).

We'll see what February brings.

Personally I don't believe everthing that is said in the chats. E* has reversed before and changed direction. 942 may be leaseable but may not for current customers. Hard to say. Febuarary might bring some clariety.

By D* HD, I assume you mean a their DVR. From what I have read this is a correct statement for most users. However, I am not sure if jumping to the conclusion that D* will handle the MPEG4 better than E*. That is left to be seen.

I thinking waiting till the end of February and doing your research is the right move. Pushing this whole decision until MPEG4 arrives is not unless you feel not need to have HD in the home. For me.. I love it.

Stargazer

Jan 18, 2005

Why pay something like $250 for a lease just to take that risk on having to pay another upgrade fee to MPEG-4 HD DVR?

kluken

Jan 18, 2005

jdsabin1 said:
Supposedly, the last Charlie Chat featured the comment that there is no future for the 921, and that the 942 would be available for lease in February.

With this information, and the fact that MPEG4 is around the corner with the 921 not being compatible, why in the world would anyone pay $500+ for the 921?

I was all set to get the 921 right now but if I can lease the 942 that seems to be the obvious way to go, even *if* I have to wait months (let's face it, Dish hasn't been very good at making timelines for equipment they promised).

Curious to know what I'm missing here. The 921 has some value with the DVR features and HD, but will Dish close them out cheap now?

Strange days indeed.

Reasons to get 921 now:

- Do you really beleive the 942 will be available when they say it will?
- The 921 is still buggy after a holf dozen software updates, god help the early 942 users
- $749! Why spend $200 on it when it too will be obselete in 12 months
- Did they say exisitng customers will be able to get it right away or will it be another "new customers first"

ocaddict

Jan 19, 2005

mdonnelly said:
And with the 942 not MPEG-4 compatible, why would anyone buy it?

LOL. Good one dude. I just picked up a 921. Since cable isn't an option for me, and I MUST have DVR, the 921 will be a good receiver (assuming I don't have assloads of trouble like quite a few folks do). Anyways, mine will be here this week and I'm looking forward to it. I basically lease my receivers since I simply sell the old ones on ebay when I get my new ones. My 721 was 270$ on ebay, and will probably sell for around 200$ or so now on ebay. 1 year -$70 is a pretty good "lease" rate in my mind. When it's time to retire the 921 I'm sure I'll do the same, and I'm sure someone on ebay will be willing to part with their cash for it.

kluken

Jan 21, 2005

glenn z said:
Does anybody really think MPEG-4 will be rolled out this year?

No and even if they did it will take months to start replacing allt he receivers, so I am thinking maybe mid-2006 I will have my MPEG4 HD-DVR.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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TheRatPatrol

Last reply 23 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

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Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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Howard Simmons

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Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

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Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...

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KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

Teased Meeting ?

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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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harshness

Today at 10:29 AM

dishstaller said:
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.

The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.

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They do like to end each season with a Bang!

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klang said:
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!

Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.

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mheisen

Last reply Today at 3:43 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

Yesterday at 6:11 PM

Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:38 AM

Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:43 AM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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