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EchoStar Questions DirecTV's Local HD

Multichannel News

By Ted Hearn

1/18/2005 5:00:00 PM

There's no better witness for cable's HDTV advantage than the competition.

EchoStar Communications Corp. told the Federal Communications Commission it
should be "skeptical" of DirecTV Inc.'s broad promises to provide hundreds
of HDTV channels beginning later this year.

In a Jan. 14 filing that touched on a number of digital-TV issues, EchoStar
attorneys also claimed that DirecTV's HDTV plans offered no justification
for the government forcing EchoStar to do the same thing.

EchoStar argued that DirecTV's plan to provide 1,500 TV stations in HDTV in
2007 rests on the use of four Ka-band satellites, which are susceptible to
rain fade "in large regions of the country" and remain "relatively untested
for direct-to-home video delivery."

Last September, DirecTV announced that it would launch two satellites this
year that would offer 500 local TV stations in HDTV, and that it would
launch two more in 2007, bringing the number of local HDTV stations to
1,500.

The United States has 1,748 local commercial and public TV stations,
according to the FCC.

EchoStar added that in addition to rain-fade problems, DirecTV's new Ka-band
satellites will share spectrum with terrestrial microwave services, perhaps
limiting delivery of HD services on a scale envisioned by DirecTV.

"It is not clear that DirecTV's plan fully takes into account these
constraints on the Ka-band spectrum," EchoStar explained.

DirecTV spokesman Bob Marsocci said the company's plan to launch the first
two satellites this year and to roll out more local HD content had not
changed.

"With the successful launch of these satellites, we will commence our
local-HD-channel service in 12 markets by midyear. Additional markets will
follow later this year," Marsocci said in an e-mail.

EchoStar also used the filing to warn the FCC that requiring carriage of
local TV stations in HD format would eat up channel capacity, forcing it to
abandon some local markets or to bump channels that it already provides.

Cable operators, EchoStar pointed out, use less spectrum to provide a TV
station's HDTV signal than its analog signal. But DBS operators, it added,
use more spectrum for HD than for analog converted to standard-definition
digital.

As a result, forcing direct-broadcast satellite providers to carry a local
station's HDTV feed instead of a downconverted version ends up "exacerbating
the difference in bandwidth between" cable and DBS, EchoStar said.

Echoing the position taken by the cable industry, EchoStar also came out
against a multicast-carriage mandate, which would require carriage of every
digital-programming service a TV station could pack into its 6-megahertz
allotment.

"The multicast obligation is an unadorned handout to broadcasters, at the
expense of DBS operators' First Amendment rights," EchoStar said.
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DishSatUser
Hmmm, lot's of vitrol here.

I believe that making sure he isn't forced to do the same thing isn't a bad idea. Personally, providing service should be based on market demand, not regulation.

I've I were a competitor and I wanted to do a "cyber-cold-war", I'd invest in a bunch of Sat technologies that really won't work, but convience the FCC and E* that they are going to be the next wave. :yes

After E* is forced to do the same thing, you can have them fail on the launch pad or something and use it as an argument to do something else. :smug

Hay wait a minute! Wasn't this what Regan did to the former USSR with the Star Wars proposals :eek:
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Multichannel News ...

"The multicast obligation is an unadorned handout to broadcasters, at the
expense of DBS operators' First Amendment rights," EchoStar said.
The right to free speech?

Someone needs to read the constitution.

JL
DishSatUser
Is it "free speach" if I tell you what books you have to read in public. Perhaps some of those books you like, but if you are going to be able to read those aloud, you also are required to read aloud the opposing views.

While kinda loosly similar, forcing multicast distribution for the local channels is similar to the above. Heck, if customers really wanted them and there was a sufficient market, E* and D* and any other competitors would put it up to make money from the customers that are paying for the service.

If my local news station want's to add on a 6 home shopping networks on their multicast signal, why would I want to recieve them? I've got no shortage already!
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Rain fade. That is what the other networks and many affiliates told NBC in the 80's when they announced and moved to Analog KU satellites. Well, NBC's fix for it worked fine. They double modulated to cover the noise floor and used diversity satellites. They have continued the diversity with their Digital change over a year or two ago. We also have cbs, which uses C band for their analog and now digital and while the analog was normal modulation and had problems, the digital uses diversity and is fine when the receivers work. Unfortunately they have a high failure rate.

Anyway, I doubt that DirecTV entered this without study.
shappyss
I remember reading on a post a while back (if i have time i will look it up) that DirecTV already considered the Rain Fade Issue. They had an advanced system to add more power to certain transponders based on weather conditions each local channel area
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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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harshness
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.
The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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The Long Run - The Eagles
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Long Train Runnin' - The Doobie Brothers
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Midnight Train to Georgia - Gladys Knight & The Pips
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After Midnight - Eric Clapton
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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Juan
I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
harshness
I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

What America can't afford is the payments on $80,000+ pickups and SUVs and $40,000+ crossovers.
Neutron
Supporting Founder
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.
meStevo
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

Jon Stewart Popcorn GIF
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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
KAB
KAB
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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