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Below is the text of the email I just sent to ceo@echostar.com. We'll see what kind of response I get back, if any:

After nearly six years as a DISH subscriber, I've had enough. I've had enough promises that aren't kept. I've had enough of CSRs that don't know as much about my system as I do. I've had enough of "upgrades" to my system that cause it to work worse. I've had enough of rate increases that make your service more expensive than cable. I've had enough of being told that my unhappiness concerns your people, only to have them tell me that they can't (read won't) do anything about it. Comcast is going to take my dish and a receiver off of my hands, and I'll sell the other one on eBay. Want to know the specifics? Try these:

• I've been buying your most expensive package for several years. It keeps getting more expensive. Comcast will provide me with 4 receivers, one of them a DVR that actually works like it's supposed to for about $30 less a month than what I pay you. When I tell this to your CSR, and ask them what they're willing to do about it to keep this unhappy customer the only answer I get is that they'll offer me a one-time, $50 credit. Charlie, that's almost as insulting and lame as the useless free pay per view coupon you send out every time you raise my rates. Am I supposed to just forget about the fact that it will take less than two months to get that $50 savings from Comcast? And I'll keep getting the price break from Comcast month after month.

• I bought my second 721 about 6 months ago, right before the "upgrade" that ruined my receivers with the infuriating reminder that time-shifted programs would have to be made live before I can change the channel. One of the reasons I bought it was because you promised NBR. And now you've pulled that rug out from underneath me. My 721 receivers, which used to be my pride and joy, are now just annoying pieces of junk, thanks to the "upgrades" that your techs keep pushing down. And the one upgrade that I want, that was promised to me, name based recording, will now never happen on my 721. I feel like you lied to me, Charlie. And do you know why? Because you did.

• That six-month old 721 mentioned above is actually the fourth one I've had in the last six months. And every one of them craps out. In fact, this one froze up and rebooted on me last night for no reason. After rebooting it twice I finally got it to come back up, after I missed the program that I was trying to watch. Didn't matter though, since your PVR/DVR receivers just keep getting louder and more annoying. I can't stand to watch the one in my bedroom for more than a few minutes at a time, because the noise it puts out gives me a headache. Heck, I have to turn the TV up all the way just to drown out the cooling fan and hard drive. Oh, by the way, last time I had the PVR replaced I had your people send out a tech to install the replacement, thinking that maybe he might have better luck, or know something more about installing it than me. Well, two techs showed up, Charlie, and I ended up having to tell them how to install it, because I knew more about it than they did!! Utterly ridiculous.

I keep hearing all of these ambiguous statements about enhancements and service improvements, but they're like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I keep seeing them out there on the horizon, but they never get any closer. In fact, things just seem to get worse.

There was a time when I told everyone to buy DISH, and I was proud that your satellite dish was on the back of my house. No more, Charlie. I will be telling anyone who asks to avoid DISH like the plague. If you don't care enough about your reputation to protect it, I won't let you ruin mine.

I'd like to believe that DISH still wants to be the best, and that you value my business enough to do what it takes to rehabilitate your reputation in my eyes. If you do, Charlie, please contact me. If not, just ignore this email, and let me become another drop of water in the alarmingly growing flood of subscribers who are seeing the light and leaving DISH for better alternatives. My contact information is below:
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StevenD said:
Thats not entirely true. Charlie only owns about 250,000 shares now (Im sure he will receive more as time comes with bonuses, etc.) He has sold almost 2 million of his shares in the last two years.

Whereas Jim DeFranco still holds almost 5 million shares.

Well, it sounds like Charlie is quickly becoming irrelevant to E*. In any event, my original post, and my letter were addressed to Charlie only because he is the face of E*. I knew when I wrote it that his eyes would more than likely never see it.
long_time_Dish
I honestly do wonder how much of our discontent and problems Charlie really does hear about, and if he really gives a rip? I think he probably did care, 5-6 years ago...but in the past two years? Probably very little, if at all...
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charlie,

congrats on you purchase of the voom satellite.
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korsjs said:
charlie,

congrats on you purchase of the voom satellite.


Yeah Charlie, maybe you can use the new bandwidth to broadcast another monthly customer information show for your subscribers, on which you can have a peanut gallery of uncomfortable looking techs try to explain why they still can't deliver on the promises you made on the monthly customer information show six months ago, and break the news that the promises made a year ago have been cancelled.

Or maybe we can get some Lithuanian movie channels. Or perhaps some more religious arts and crafts shopping channels...

I see July's letter already: "Please understand dear customer, the hardware is the most expensive part of our service, and our continuing efforts in this regard are the reason why we're raising your rates again."
MustangLX89
I was thinking they could add some channels about swahili basket weaving.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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harshness
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.
The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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The Long Run - The Eagles
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Long Train Runnin' - The Doobie Brothers
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Midnight Train to Georgia - Gladys Knight & The Pips
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After Midnight - Eric Clapton
dishstaller
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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Juan
I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
harshness
I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans
I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

What America can't afford is the payments on $80,000+ pickups and SUVs and $40,000+ crossovers.
Neutron
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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R.I.P.
mc6809e
Rest In Peace
sdfntx
R.I.P., Jean-Luc.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
KAB
KAB
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Almighty1
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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