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Can I use my computers and 211 on the same subnet to watch recorded programs on 722k?

I have a 722k and two 211, and multiple computers on a CAT5e/CAT6 network with a gigabit router.

I have very little need to access my DVR when I am not on the above network.

I have three questions:

(1) Do I need a Sling Adapter to Stream video locally to my computers?
(2) Is viewing recorded content on the 722k from 211 possible at all?
(3) Is DishOnline smart enough to recognize that my 722k and my computer are on the same subnet and not route traffic through my internet gateway and back to my subnet?
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My Sling never trasnfers data at more tha 4mbit, even when on my local network. IIRC the max bandwidth of a satellite transponder is in the 50mbit range, and all channels are way less than that. An ATSC channel is at max 19.8mbit. In other words, USB2 is more than enough to move two video streams. The problems arise from CPU bottlenecks in the 722.
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My Sling never trasnfers data at more tha 4mbit, even when on my local network. IIRC the max bandwidth of a satellite transponder is in the 50mbit range, and all channels are way less than that. An ATSC channel is at max 19.8mbit. In other words, USB2 is more than enough to move two video streams. The problems arise from CPU bottlenecks in the 722.
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Well the other side of this.. is the compression/decompression codecs used. Even though 4Mbit is all you saw from the sling box, was the quality as good or better than the SlingAdapter? and is the amount of data moved comprable?

Case in point ... I've a copy of Katy Perry's "Firework" video (youtube), its 1080p and just 7 second shy of 4 minutes. Its 94 megs. ... So lets assume 4mins = 100 meg .... or 25 megs per minute.

If we took a one hour video .... 25 M/m x 60 min = 1.5 G (approx)

the average of some of my DVR events moved to external hard drive go from 1.x gigs to 2.3 gigs

So maybe dish's downlink on any given channel is at about that rate 25meg/min ... then why isn't Dish's 1080i as clear, and why isn't its data moved as efficiently from the box in the next room, as that 1080p video from Youtube?

A quick live-stream test I got this...

Mon Feb 28 14:05:32 UTC 2011
Mon Feb 28 14:09:50 UTC 2011

RX bytes:451909504 (430.9 MiB) TX bytes:3187298936 (2.9 GiB)
RX bytes:728595913 (694.8 MiB) TX bytes:3193328354 (2.9 GiB)

Bytes: 277,505,409
Time : 4m 18s // 258sec
Approx: 64 MBytes / Min ...

This is nearly THREE times the amount of data moved from Youtube and Youtube's video is 1080p while the live video is from the "better" setting on the dish player app which I'd say is fairly high, but not 1080p, and if you can hear the "warble" in the audio at times, you know there must be something not so great in the video stream but the human eye can't detect it as easily as the ear does the audio.


I'm sure there's overhead, but not 3 times as much, and certainly not so that there would be 3 times as much data. After having run that test ... I'm convinced that Dish's codecs are just sh*t and that if they'd apply their resources in the right direction they'd probably half their amount of required transponders, saving them money, and by chance being able to offer more value (more channel space, less drive space waste on a DVR, etc)
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You're confusing a lot of stuff here. First off, the 4mbit I quoted was from my Sling Adapter, not Sling Box, so it's only going at 4mbit from the 722. Also, megabyte != megabit. And finally comparing Youtube to Dish is like comparing apples to oranges.
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JosephB said:
You're confusing a lot of stuff here. First off, the 4mbit I quoted was from my Sling Adapter, not Sling Box, so it's only going at 4mbit from the 722. Also, megabyte != megabit. And finally comparing Youtube to Dish is like comparing apples to oranges.
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I didn't confuse megabyte and megabit those are real numbers ... I added the commas to show that it moved 277 megabytes of data the RX Bytes / TX Bytes ... its in the line there.. "bytes" not bits

now 4 megabit from your Sling Adapter.. are you only using it on the "Good" setting? I'm moving 8 megabits per second across the network on the "Better" setting ... and that's confirmed both with the sling player app from the dish website, as well as monitored bandwidth through the router. (slightly more complex network here than your average home).

As to the Youtube / Dish comparison .. apples and oranges are both fruits right?

Youtube .. video across ethernet
SlingAdapter ... video across ethernet

more like comparing Red Delicious and Golden Delicious Apples.

Yes, I over simplify, and agree that its far more intensive with "live" streams than fixed length stored content and streams, but three times the level of data? suggestively wasteful of limited resources regardless.

For DISH to say its doing its best, would be like the audiophile saying there can be no compromise for Vinyl when 256k MP3's at least reproduce 90% or more the quality that our ears can discern, and given other opinions of Dish's HD qualities, I think 80% would probably describe dish best, if that.
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Doing things at a comfortable pace can yield a three times improvement or more. On-the-fly can make no assumptions and few predictions yet it always has to get the job done in real time. Just being able to know how many objects are to be tracked is a major advantage.
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Doing things at a comfortable pace can yield a three times improvement or more. On-the-fly can make no assumptions and few predictions yet it always has to get the job done in real time. Just being able to know how many objects are to be tracked is a major advantage.
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True ... which is why DishOnline.com can probably get the job done ... where as DishonDemand can't. Since Dish On Demand doesn't recompress the stuff they have, to be delivered via mp4 with divx or some other decent enough compression scheme, they put the onness on delivery.

The reasons why Cable's "On Demand" offiering works, is that they have the bandwidth available in their cable pipes ... dish would have to have way more transponders to serve from orbit, or ... would have to go the Hulu / Netflix delivery route.. but then to do that to the TV.... their satelite boxes need to have more horsepower ... and be designed as a "shed", rather than a single tool in it.
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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klang said:
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
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Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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