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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
"The Satellite Broadband Providers strongly support the Commission's efforts to reform the federal high-cost universal service program. Competitive neutrality and fiscal responsibility are key principles to guide this effort. Greater reliance on satellite broadband to achieve universal service goals is entirely consistent with the proposed principles. The Administration and the Commission have made ubiquitous broadband a national priority, and satellite broadband providers hold the key to achieving these ambitious goals on a timely and cost-effective basis.

Contrary to assumptions in the NPRM and the National Broadband Plan, capacity limitations provide no basis to exclude satellite broadband providers from direct participation in Phase I of the Connect America Fund ("CAF") or for limiting participation in Phase II. There are no technical limitations preventing the satellite broadband industry from expanding as required to meet anticipated demand. No provider—terrestrial or satellite—currently possesses infrastructure or capacity sufficient to extend broadband service to every unserved household. Indeed, an important goal of the CAF is to offer providers an incentive to expand broadband where market forces have not otherwise provided a reason to invest in infrastructure in these areas. The relevant question is not whether satellite broadband providers can solve the nation's broadband concerns with currently committed capacity, but rather whether satellite broadband providers should be permitted to compete on an equal basis with other providers for funding to add the capacity needed to serve the unserved. Unquestionably, they should be allowed to do so.

Satellite broadband providers can offer high-speed, quality broadband services, comparable to many terrestrial technologies across key relevant metrics of service. Satellite broadband supports important broadband applications, including VoIP, streaming video, and high-definition video conferencing. Thus, there is also no valid technical reason to exclude satellite broadband providers from participating fully and directly.

By allowing satellite broadband providers to participate fully in the CAF, the Commission can use market forces more efficiently and achieve its goals more cost-effectively. Restricting satellite broadband providers' participation, by contrast, would also conflict with competitive neutrality. The NPRM's alternatives to full participation are unworkable. If satellite broadband providers are excluded from full participation, they also should be excluded from contribution obligations; no class of providers that is capable of providing the supported services has ever been required to contribute yet was excluded from participation.

Because the Eligible Telecommunications Carrier ("ETC") requirements should facilitate, and not impede, achievement of national broadband goals, the Commission should exercise its statutory authority to make support available to non-common carrier broadband providers. This is consistent with precedent. There should be federal procedures to designate nationwide broadband providers as ETCs in all states, consistent with the Commission's authority under section 214(e)(6). Similarly, the public interest obligations should reflect how broadband is delivered today. States should not be permitted to impose any obligations on funding recipients that are not otherwise subject to state jurisdiction, and legacy incumbent regulations – including particularly carrier-of-last-resort obligations, should not be carried into the CAF. Broadband should be defined without reference to any particular technology, based on a threshold of at least 4 Mbps downstream and 1 Mbps upstream."
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Stargazer
There is no way you can compare satellite broadband to DSL/Cable/FIOS/Fiber. Satellite internet is not that great but it is better than dialup. Satellite is oversubscribed. Real internet is land based.
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There is no way you can compare satellite broadband to DSL/Cable/FIOS/Fiber. Satellite internet is not that great but it is better than dialup. Satellite is oversubscribed. Real internet is land based.

Yes . . . but the idea of the Federal funding is provide the funds that companies refuse to spend from their own profits to enhance or advance the internet to reach more people and at better quality, and the sat providers are arguing that if they are allowed access to these funds, they can use that money to address the weaknesses of sat internet that you cited and enhance and improve sat internet, especially for rural areas (maybe even as good as DSL and at the same price)--at least that is the official line.

However, we would have to see if this is just a government give away or if it really is one of the many successful tax payer funded Research & Development that has resulted in benefits to the consumer and always the private companies.

I don't like the system of tax payer funded R&D that has been a fact of life since the Military Industrial Complex was born (Although, didn't our government pay the railroads to build track that the private railroads would own? I guess that has been going on longer than we thought), but it also has provided magnificent benefits in the free market but with tax payers never getting their direct payment "dividend" on our investment in private corporations.
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IMO, the federal government should not be taxing people to provide Internet service. It just another intrusion into people's lives.
Bob Haller
the days of big government handouts is coming to a close, they are no longer affordable.....

espically with essentials like SS on the cutting block:(
Brussam
It is that Government investment than made the Internet in the first place. Private communications investments were not moving towards a common transport, just how to use their communication circuits better. It was the Government's need for a common transport to a diverse set of endpoints (mostly universities) that brought ARPANET which evolved into the Internet. Profit motive doesn't always create new concepts.

The problem with a profit motive driven development like Broadband is that it is evolving rapidly in densely populated areas. First DSL, then Cable, and now FIOS. That evolution is not happening in Rural America because the cost per user is high.

The joke of this is when Congress is talking Broadband for everyone, they mean the financially challenged poor of the big cities. The farmers who need high-speed Internet as part of their business is not on Congress' radar screen.

So either the Government should do nothing or include the Satellite providers in the "Broadband for everyone" scheme.
lakebum431
Starting to get a little political here....
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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The Long Run - The Eagles
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Long Train Runnin' - The Doobie Brothers
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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K
Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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meStevo
Renewed for season 5.
K
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
KAB
KAB
Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Great ending, but it ran in circles most of the season.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Almighty1
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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