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I'm thinking about switching to Dish from DirecTV, mainly because right now I'm spending about a hundred bucks a month for DirecTV service I only watch occasionally, and figure I could be paying roughly half as much for the channels I care about if I switched to Dish, got a 211k, and paid the one-time $40 EHD upgrade (I have a spare 1tb USB2 hard drive) to escape the monthly DVR fee:
* Dish America Silver ($39.99 for 12 months, $49.99 thereafter)
* Platinum HD ($10/month, free for first 3)
* one-time $40 EHD fee for 211k (no recurring fees for DVR service, right?)
* possible one-time $40-50 charge for a self-installed MT2 from Amazon (only if locals aren't free with the above... I've kind of gotten the impression that they ARE)
I can live with not being able to watch a different channel while the DVR is recording a show, or being able to record two satellite channels at once (I'm single, live alone, and all the TVs in the house are fed whatever's playing on the living room TV using component video & s-video baluns). However, my tolerance for sluggish DVR UIs is pretty low. The HR21 I got from DirecTV wasn't too bad ~3 years ago, but now it's seriously starting to annoy me (maybe the hard drive is just catastrophically fragmented after 3 years, but it really does seem like it's a LOT slower now than it used to be when bringing up the guide, showing recorded programs, etc).
So... maybe putting it another way... if I had a 722k and a 211k+EHD side by side, connected to identical TVs, how much better, faster, and nicer overall would the 722k seem compared to the 211k+EHD? Are we talking about no/minimal difference, a small-but-perceptible difference, or a "dear God, the 211k totally sucks compared to the 722k" difference?
For anybody who's used both side by side, how does a 211k+EHD operating as a DVR compare to a DirecTV HR21? Would I likely view the 211k+EHD as a step up, a step down, or more or less the same?
(for anybody who hasn't guessed yet, I'm one of those people who spend hours and hours tweaking my TV setup, programming remotes, scrutinizing video quality, and agonizing about technical details... then actually WATCH about 10 hours of real TV in a year) ;-)
* Dish America Silver ($39.99 for 12 months, $49.99 thereafter)
* Platinum HD ($10/month, free for first 3)
* one-time $40 EHD fee for 211k (no recurring fees for DVR service, right?)
* possible one-time $40-50 charge for a self-installed MT2 from Amazon (only if locals aren't free with the above... I've kind of gotten the impression that they ARE)
I can live with not being able to watch a different channel while the DVR is recording a show, or being able to record two satellite channels at once (I'm single, live alone, and all the TVs in the house are fed whatever's playing on the living room TV using component video & s-video baluns). However, my tolerance for sluggish DVR UIs is pretty low. The HR21 I got from DirecTV wasn't too bad ~3 years ago, but now it's seriously starting to annoy me (maybe the hard drive is just catastrophically fragmented after 3 years, but it really does seem like it's a LOT slower now than it used to be when bringing up the guide, showing recorded programs, etc).
So... maybe putting it another way... if I had a 722k and a 211k+EHD side by side, connected to identical TVs, how much better, faster, and nicer overall would the 722k seem compared to the 211k+EHD? Are we talking about no/minimal difference, a small-but-perceptible difference, or a "dear God, the 211k totally sucks compared to the 722k" difference?
For anybody who's used both side by side, how does a 211k+EHD operating as a DVR compare to a DirecTV HR21? Would I likely view the 211k+EHD as a step up, a step down, or more or less the same?
(for anybody who hasn't guessed yet, I'm one of those people who spend hours and hours tweaking my TV setup, programming remotes, scrutinizing video quality, and agonizing about technical details... then actually WATCH about 10 hours of real TV in a year) ;-)
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Uh oh, found a potential snag. I didn't even think it was *legal* to make material changes to a contract (like adding brand new fees out of the blue without allowing customers to either refuse the new fee or leave without penalty during the contract term), but apparently Dish could, with complete legality, decide to slap 211k owners who've paid the $40 EHD fee and are still under contract with the $6/month DVR fee anyway.
Argh. Now I have to agonize over the possibility that I might settle for a 211k to save the DVR fee, then get stuck paying the same amount I would have had to pay if I'd gotten a 722k anyway. An hour ago, I was 99.9% ready to put in the order, but now I'm afraid to. The 722k doesn't really add enough value to be worth voluntarily paying $6/month extra, but if they put a gun to my head 1 to 23 months from now and forced me to start paying them $6/month anyway, I'd be totally miserable with a 211k and feel totally & completely screwed every remaining day I had it once they started charging the fee unless they let me exchange my 211k for a 722k at the same time as a consolation prize.
Argh. Now I have to agonize over the possibility that I might settle for a 211k to save the DVR fee, then get stuck paying the same amount I would have had to pay if I'd gotten a 722k anyway. An hour ago, I was 99.9% ready to put in the order, but now I'm afraid to. The 722k doesn't really add enough value to be worth voluntarily paying $6/month extra, but if they put a gun to my head 1 to 23 months from now and forced me to start paying them $6/month anyway, I'd be totally miserable with a 211k and feel totally & completely screwed every remaining day I had it once they started charging the fee unless they let me exchange my 211k for a 722k at the same time as a consolation prize.
Uh oh, found a potential snag. I didn't even think it was *legal* to make material changes to a contract (like adding brand new fees out of the blue without allowing customers to either refuse the new fee or leave without penalty during the contract term), but apparently Dish could, with complete legality, decide to slap 211k owners who've paid the $40 EHD fee and are still under contract with the $6/month DVR fee anyway.
Argh. Now I have to agonize over the possibility that I might settle for a 211k to save the DVR fee, then get stuck paying the same amount I would have had to pay if I'd gotten a 722k anyway. An hour ago, I was 99.9% ready to put in the order, but now I'm afraid to. The 722k doesn't really add enough value to be worth voluntarily paying $6/month extra, but if they put a gun to my head 1 to 23 months from now and forced me to start paying them $6/month anyway, I'd be totally miserable with a 211k and feel totally & completely screwed every remaining day I had it once they started charging the fee unless they let me exchange my 211k for a 722k at the same time as a consolation prize.
Hopefully, someone from DIRT can answer. I believe it does say one-time fee on the receiver page. I do understand your concerns, though. I would hope that if they would charge a $6/month fee (Let's not give them any ideas.
) that they would refund that $39.99 one or grandfather those in who already paid that fee. It would in all honesty come across as underhanded to do such a thing from the wording of "one-time." However, usually cable or/and sat companies have the right to change contract terms.
Hopefully, someone from DIRT can answer. I believe it does say one-time fee on the receiver page. I do understand your concerns, though. I would hope that if they would charge a $6/month fee (Let's not give them any ideas.
Wouldn't bank on that credit. I have a couple of 722s that I paid the 39.99 fee for EHD service on. This is now a freebie but no credit ever showed on my bill. I'm cool with that though as if they add channels to my package they don't add a fee to my bill. As they say sometimes you get the bear and sometimes he gets you.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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