Social Feed

DishSubLA said:

So, people think they are getting HD for life by making things less expensive for Dish by committing to autopay and email statements or paying a lot of money up front for HD for Life. As is apparent by this thread, Dish doesn't seem to advertise this difference on HD Free for Life and the HD Add-on.

Is DIRT really sure about this? Could DIRT post a "confirmation, yes it really is so" post so we are all certain. If this really is the case, good grief! While there may be a legitimate reason for this Palladia situation because of contracts or payments by Dish for the channel, it still comes across as dishonest, flim-flam at worst or disingenuous at best. Say it aint so. As one who watches Palladia, I would be REALLY pissed if I had paid for HD for life only to find that if I want said channel, it would cost me an additional $10.00 per month because it is, IN FACT, offered in the AT's, even if only as the HD add-on. PLEASE!

Click to expand...

Didn't do anything to get hd free for life.

ronfelder said:

Didn't do anything to get hd free for life.

Click to expand...

They told me I would have had to pay $200 in extra equipment costs to get "free" HD for life, which of course I declined to do. I'm stuck with all SD signals, but paying the same monthly fee as "free HD for life" customers with the same package. I'm sure there are people out there who did pay that equipment fee and now don't get whatever this Palladia channel is. Seems shady to me. But it's about what I expect from Dish -- they offer a lot of promotions that have catches or aren't available to everyone, and then try to nickle and dime you with service charges and little gotchas, plus channels you'd expect to be in basic packages (based on what's in cable's basic packages), but that you have to upgrade to get (Versus, MSNBC). And god-forbid you're a sports fan in an area where Dish has a feud with your local RSN and you don't get any of your favorites teams' games, which might be why you subscribed in the first place, and can't opt out due to a contract and an early termination fee.

I switched to Dish because I couldn't get a deal from cable (After 5 years with them) and couldn't afford what they were charging, so Dish was a "life saver" in that regard, it's not all bad, but I've got to say I'm not going to be nominating them for service of the year anytime soon.

P.S. Didn't get a signal due to the rain storm for probably the 25th time last night.

HanoverPretzel said:

They told me I would have had to pay $200 in extra equipment costs to get "free" HD for life, which of course I declined to do. I'm stuck with all SD signals, but paying the same monthly fee as "free HD for life" customers with the same package. I'm sure there are people out there who did pay that equipment fee and now don't get whatever this Palladia channel is. Seems shady to me. But it's about what I expect from Dish -- they offer a lot of promotions that have catches or aren't available to everyone, and then try to nickle and dime you with service charges and little gotchas, plus channels you'd expect to be in basic packages (based on what's in cable's basic packages), but that you have to upgrade to get (Versus, MSNBC). And god-forbid you're a sports fan in an area where Dish has a feud with your local RSN and you don't get any of your favorites teams' games, which might be why you subscribed in the first place, and can't opt out due to a contract and an early termination fee.

I switched to Dish because I couldn't get a deal from cable (After 5 years with them) and couldn't afford what they were charging, so Dish was a "life saver" in that regard, it's not all bad, but I've got to say I'm not going to be nominating them for service of the year anytime soon.

P.S. Didn't get a signal due to the rain storm for probably the 25th time last night.

Click to expand...

We do perform credit qualifications or authorization (depending on if you are a new customer or existing customer) when a customer is looking to get new equipment. For example our ViP722 receiver is $449 if you wanted to puchase the unit. If you were quoted $200 that would be a discounted price from the $449. Our HD Duo DVR receivers are not the only option when it comes to upgrading to HD equipment. We have a viariety of HD receivers that range in price. You may have qualified for other options and I can take a look at that for you if you want to send me a PM with your phone or account number. Also If you are consistently losing signal in light rain we may need to have a tech come out to repoint your Dish.

RaymondG@Dish Network said:

You may have qualified for other options and I can take a look at that for you if you want to send me a PM with your phone or account number.

Click to expand...

I already went through that process with another DIRT team member and was told if I wanted HD, I'd have to pay for more equipment. I'm also not sure at this point I'd upgrade even if it were free if it involved extending my contract, given the rumors that Dish may drop ESPN.

Also If you are consistently losing signal in light rain we may need to have a tech come out to repoint your Dish.

Click to expand...

It's usually heavy rain, but we're getting a lot of it lately, so it's becoming more of an issue. Were I to have a tech come out to repoint the Dish at some point, would there be a charge associated with that?

Whoever came up with the incipid idea that a business trying to make a profit is "screwing their customers" should be sent back to high school economics - O WAIT, that is what is taught in high school now - businesses are ALWAYS screwing ALL their customers - only the government cares - BS.

Well the truth is that business has to care about the customer because if they lose the customer they lose their livelihood, but government will always be able to confiscate property or perpetuate itself - it's government that is screwing you, not businesses.

Jim5506 said:

Whoever came up with the incipid idea that a business trying to make a profit is "screwing their customers" should be sent back to high school economics

Click to expand...

Most big business operates solely to make the most profit possible. If you don't understand that, you're either misinformed or naive. Occasionally there is a big business here or there that doesn't operate that way, but usually they eventually fall prey to more callous competition. That's why regulation is so important-- to protect consumers, employees, and the world around us. Some conservative economists may yearn for middle ages style feudalism with a capitalistic sheen, where a small upper class controls all the country's real wealth, and everyone else are the equivalent of serfs just barely able to (and sometimes not able to) feed their families or have anything of financial value, but I hope at some point the American people say enough is enough and elect folks who will put reasonable restrictions on the consolidation of wealth in the hands of a privileged few and the gradual deterioration of the rights and the very existence of a middle class in this country.

O WAIT, that is what is taught in high school now - businesses are ALWAYS screwing ALL their customers - only the government cares - BS.

Click to expand...

I was taught economics in college by a Reagan conservative who hated unions and government, and loved big business. He was a smart guy, but he was dead wrong about a lot of things. I haven't been brain washed by anyone, I see the world around me and realize what is going on -- regular folks are losing their chance to have a decent life so the ultra rich can get richer.

Well the truth is that business has to care about the customer because if they lose the customer they lose their livelihood

Click to expand...

Didn't stop businesses from selling dead rats mixed with rat poison as beef soup in the 19th century. Ever read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair? Businesses have to pretend to care about the customer in some cases (Not always- like where a virtual monopoly exists), but they usually don't actually care. They just have to create a perception that they do.

Did I just walk into a political forum?

HanoverPretzel said:

Didn't stop businesses from selling dead rats mixed with rat poison as beef soup in the 19th century. Ever read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair? Businesses have to pretend to care about the customer in some cases (Not always- like where a virtual monopoly exists), but they usually don't actually care. They just have to create a perception that they do.

Click to expand...

A more recent example would be the Glycerin incidents from a few years ago .. some guy in China decided to get a better profit he'd simply use the same stuff that's anti-freeze grade.. slap TD on it... which meant "tidai" or "substitute" and it was then used in hundreds of things including the glycerol base of cough syrup that killed thousands in 3rd world countries..

The local thought was that it made him more money, the global concern was never in this person's mind.
From China to Panama, a Trail of Poisoned Medicine - NYTimes.com
that's one of my favorite reads.. it also opens the doors to "what if" since we don't test *every thing* we rely on big business to do it, or to manufacture it as cheaply as possible and not have it kill us, so that big business will still have us as consumer/customer.

HanoverPretzel said:

It's usually heavy rain, but we're getting a lot of it lately, so it's becoming more of an issue. Were I to have a tech come out to repoint the Dish at some point, would there be a charge associated with that?

Click to expand...

I would have to pull up your account. If you want me to take a look at what I can do just PM your phone or account number and I would be happy to take a look.

whatchel1 said:

Did I just walk into a political forum?

Click to expand...

Nobody "just walks into a political forum". You get sucked into it, like a worm hole!
Ghpr13

Ghpr13 said:

Nobody "just walks into a political forum". You get sucked into it, like a worm hole!
Ghpr13

Click to expand...

ALL REVERSE SCOTTY. Black hole dead ahead.