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OK, Sorry for the long post but I want to learn a lot. I also thought that if I give you a full description and some back story you will know where I am coming from and where I want to go.

I have a TL;DR at the bottom you can skip to which will answer some of my questions. I choose this forum because I didn't think I could get everything out in a phone conversation to Dish and I also see that some dish reps post here and that I also wanted some outside opinion.


I had Dish Network and DirectTV before when I was in a different Living situation Back 9 years ago.

I just recently Resubscribed to Dish Network and things are a little different than when I had it last. At least I think some things are so I just want to ask a few questions to clear things up.


First Question is about Equipment.

Back when I had Dish before the deals were that you buy the box and maybe through the reseller you could get a special deal on the receiver if signed a certain contract and you had an option of $99.00 credit that went for a self install kit or professional installation. I self installed both my Directtv and then Dish Network.When I moved there was no obligation to return the Box and I think that the terms was that the Cards were the property of the Dish Network and you had to return them. When I left Dish I was never asked to return the card and so after a few years the receiver and Card went in the trash. Also my box had gone out and I just bought another one off of Ebay and customer support and my reseller helped me with switching out the cards. But I don't remember what I had to do exactly. Card had to be reprogrammed by sending to dish to match it to the receiver if I am getting things right.

Now currently when I subscribed I did not have to pay for any equipment and the only option was free installation and it seemed like the reseller network had shrunk to minuscule and so I dealt with Dish directly.

So I have a few questions on how things operate now. And have made some assumptions so please answer my questions and correct any wrong assumptions.

I have a VIP 722 DVR HD and a VIP211 HD

On my bill I am charged a $6.00 Fee for DVR which I understand to be the monthly subscription charge for DVR service for the VIP722. This is just like my monthly subscription charge Tivo charges to have all the programming menus/TV Guide and such that I would have if I didn't have a lifetime subscription on my Tivo.

So the first question is this if I add more DVR Dish boxes to my system does the DVR price stay at $6.00 or go up for each additional Dish DVR I might add?

Second I have a $7.00 "HD Solo Receiver" charge that is reoccurring on my bill.

What is this charge?

Is this "lease" that they charge me because I have a second receiver and that the first receiver "lease" is included in the Monthly Package since I never had to pay for the equipment and under "My Equipment" online both receivers are listed as "Leased"and they are using the same model that I had with Cable where the equipment is leased to me and I am charged monthly fees.

Or is this an addition receiver charge that is added to the bill for each receiver that I have above the first one and if so how is this rate calculated. Is it $7.00 per receiver no matter what one I add or is there a schedule based on what type of receiver I add to my subscription.

My current setup is the 2 dish HD setup. Can I still use something like the


Now for some general questions.

What is the deal now a days with Dish Network and their Equipment. Can I buy the Equipment instead of leasing it? I thought they used to be more like the Cell Phone model where if you have the equipment that works with our network and it has good serial numbers we will let you activate it on our system. Has that changed and they are more like cable? Our equipment on our system leases from us only?

I know back in the day I thought you could buy peoples used boxes and add them to your subscription as long as the equipment and card was not from a delinquent account you were then able to save money over buying one from dish or a reseller at full price. Just like things are in the cellular market where you buy used phones and if nothing is wrong with the EIN they can be activated and you can activate it as a new or replacement phone.

If I can buy my own equipment say off of Ebay/Craigslist etc. can I add it to my account? If so is it only certain equipment that I can do this with? "like" I am thinking that if all dish does now is lease equipment since I don't see anything on Dish about buying equipment can I still buy older equipment that was purchased before Dish stopped selling and went to a leasing model.

if I can buy any equipment from a secondary market or just certain equipment how can I protect myself from buying stolen or banned/delinquent account equipment/cards or someone Else's leased equipment that they are not allowed to sell. Is Dish friendly about making inquiries on the status of receiver and card IDs? Do I just have the option to buy the equipment on the secondary market then I have to Buy the card from Dish or can I buy the card too?

If I can buy Equipment do I have to have Dish come out and install it or since I have installed my own back in the days can I just do activation over the phone?

How many receivers can I have on one account? wanting to know both Max number to have total and maximum number you can have without occurring additional charges. And please define receivers when answering this. Does my current setup of the 1 Duo and 1 Solo count as 2 receivers(each physical Receiver) or 3 receivers because there is 2 tuners in the Duo and one tuner in the Solo.)

Thank You for reading this far!


The reason I am asking all this is I needed some programming that was not available on my cable but that Dish has. So we currently have Dish and Cable. There are a few reasons for this. Cable provides my internet and the speed over the highest DSL in my area and bundle price for the channels made sense. But now the Cable internet service has too many subscribers in the area and the lines are getting bad. I have been having too much quality issues with my internet so I am considering DSL.

Second we are a large family in a large house that is wired to the hilt. When I signed up for Dish over the internet and the option came up for receivers it asked where I was putting them. Both were going into different family rooms but Dish's online sign up was not letting me put family room for both receivers.

My current cable set up though has 5 TV's and 2 computers connected to the cable. One of the TV is PIP so it has two cable connections one going to the cable box which connects to the RGB input and the second goes to the TV tuner. I also have in one rumpus room a TV with a TV connected to a Game console and Cable. In the corner is a treadmill that has a TV that has wireless headphones that someone can be using the treadmill in the corner while someone else uses the other TV. Also 4 children in the house and none of them have TV in their rooms. But three are old enough and responsible that we are going to wire cable into their rooms. The thing is Cable has no care what we do the more we added we just had to add line amplifiers.

So I am also wondering with the extent I had to ID the receivers locations when I subscribed is Dish going to be a pain in the ass about the receivers I have and their location in the house if I do move over to them?

Pretty much I am a tech guy that has wired in my whole house. Computer Network, Servers, CCTV and my Cable. I have also worked where I managed PBXs, networks, a C/Ku Large dish setup back in the days for a company with their own distribution through the office and worked as a computer tech for a company that operated their own broadcast studio setup which was a multi large dish setup that had special subscription services that was broadcast out through the plant and a receiver box that had to go on the system for each subscription that changed out on a semi Regular basis and even had an uplink of their broadcast signal. So I am one of those that want to do everything my way and perfect and custom and am capable of handling my own in house TV setup and I have a lot of freedom with the Cable service I have now but am afraid that Dish might be too anal/bureaucratic for me.


Like with Cable now I have 2 cables coming into the house and 2 amplifiers one that I bought and one provided by the cable company a High Band Channel Notch Filter on it and a Modulator split into the cable system so that any TV that just has the basic cable hooked up I can tune into my CCTV system on Channel 75. So if a cable tech comes out I give them a short tour of the system and they see it is all proper and don't worry that it is a little unconventional and do their thing. Never once had the Cable company try and call me on my system even though the techs first look leaves them with a puzzled look on their face they realize everything is legal and on the up and up and that I am using all the right Notch filters and one way pass filters that I am not corrupting their system or illegally obtaining any of their signal and I am paying for what I get.

I had actually looked into dish a few years ago and was talking to a rep about a setup quote and they were having trouble with me telling them I wanted to setup one Dual tuner receiver for one TV and PIP they said that if the tech got there and that there was not 2 tvs for the Dual Tuner they would not install it. This is some of the Hassles I foresee if I go to dish completely or if I can buy used do things myself can I work with Dish and get what I want done? Plus if I do such a big expansion am I going to have to explain myself to dish. I only know a little about satellite piracy from what I have seen in the news and I don't want to get into a bureaucratic nightmare with Dish because they are so protective because of piracy and I want to make up a system that is too complicated for Dish to understand what I am doing and though it is legal because they don't understand it that they don't want to deal with me or that I will be dealing with phone reps that has a script to go by and can't handle my odd requests.


The bottom line and a TL;DR

With Cable now I have no problem doing what I want with my setup. Don't have to worry about buying special equipment for each TV or registering every TV and its location I don't have to buy everything for the system from them for the basic cable and only have to get tuners and tuner cards for the TV's I want subscription stuff on which I don't need on every TV. If I switch over to Dish how much of my freedom am I loosing because they are so paranoid of pirates (although I heard that the satellites have managed to stop them through a new system.) and is it going to cost a fortune to do all the TV's I want to do and maybe not be able to do some of things that I do now with cable and where do I have to buy my equipment? Can I buy used Equipment?

Thank You

Michael
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Thank You for the info and for reading it.

I know my post was long and you guys did a better job than me responding than I could asking.

Ok so I know now that Dish isn't as hard core as I thought. I guess I just got a rep that couldn't get the PIP I wanted when I first tried and gave up and`web sites have no intelligence so it is hard for Dish to script them for every scenario.

My follow up is Zach you say Maximum of 6 Leased Tuner and the correction of 3 Receiver max w/ up to 6 Tuners was added to the conversation.

Zach You used the term leased tuners. was that a slip or If I buy my own equipment can I have more than 6? Did you mean to put in the word leased?

The 211 I am paying the $7.00 lease on when could I terminate that lease and replace it with a bought receiver to save the $7?

If I buy used equipment what about the smart cards. can I use a Card say sold used with the receiver or will Dish make me buy a new one?

My setup that I have and am planing is larger than the 6 tuners so if the absolute limit is 3Rs/6Ts per account Do I just setup a second account at full price at the same address or is that it, 3Rs/6Ts at the house is the absolute limit.


I think I have some calculating to do to see if I leave the Internet on cable get rid of the premium cable and wire the kids in for the basic in their rooms and use the 6 tuners for everything else will that be the cheapest? Or get rid of Cable entirely and 2 dish accounts with DSL bundled. Dish can't go away. There are channels I need and can't get anywhere else so this setup will either remain hybrid or be homoginized to Dish.


Thank You

Michael
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owning your equipment does not get rid of the add'l receiver fee. All it gains it that you keep it when you cancel and can sell it

you can buy as many receivers as you want. You can lease 3 receivers whether they are single tuner (like the 211) or dual tuner (like a 612, 722). Once you hit 3 leased receivers you can add more receivers by buying them
TimberWolf
Before you buy any used recs, call dish first with the receiver and smartcard numbers to make sure they are not leased or have a unpaid balance on them and that the smartcard is current

If you don't need independent tuners on all the tvs at the same time, you can split the home distribution output of the dual tuners recs to several tvs at a time
Z
Just caught your reply but it looks like Iceberg and Timberwolf answered your other questions. If you have any other questions let us know.
dwarren2
You can turn the 211 into a dvr by adding an external hard drive(ehd). There is a 1 time charge of $40 to do that per account. No change in the solo fee. You can add an ehd to the 722 at no charge. You can have as many ehd's for the 722 as you want, but only 1 can be attached at a time.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.
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Foxbat
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

So, no huge screens for the Foxbat's…
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TRG
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

So, no huge screens for the Foxbat's…

55" is plenty big.
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dishstaller
55" is plenty big.
And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.
Jimbo
And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.
I remember buying my 1st Sony .... a whopping Big 27" CRT XBR .... $1200. :)
Bobby
I bought my 50" Mitsubishi rear projection in 1981!
dishstaller
I remember buying my 1st Sony .... a whopping Big 27" CRT XBR .... $1200. :)
Yep....because they weren't going to get any bigger and the CERTAINLY weren't going to get any cheaper.

I remember MANY years ago I went into Sams Club and saw a thumb drive on sale for $49.88....the storage capacity was a whopping 256mb....yes, MB. I just KNEW that was as cheap as they could ever go and there was simply NO way they could fit any more memory into something that small.
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I use to have a projector and a 133" screen. I had that house wired just for that screen. Now I have a 75" Sony. If you really want to have the biggest and best check into AWALL CoB MicroLED Display C Series , but you better have a lot of $$$$. I was involved in a group buy with AVSForum for one the first LED TV's. The TV's has changed a lot since then.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

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raoul5788
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!
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b4pjoe
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Jimbo
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
YouTube TV
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raoul5788
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.
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YouTube TV
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
Jimbo
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.
b4pjoe
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.
I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.

NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo
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RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.
NESN and spectrum sportsnet is i don't know about the others
raoul5788
I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.
NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo
And my package is going up $15/month!
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And my package is going up $15/month!
have you tried to call in and threaten to cancel and see how that works out??? have you tried going back onto directv.com and making a new acct for discounts posing as a new sub.. it worked for me when ATT destroyed it:biggrin
raoul5788
have you tried to call in and threaten to cancel and see how that works out??? have you tried going back onto directv.com and making a new acct for discounts posing as a new sub.. it worked for me when ATT destroyed it:biggrin
I got a big discount for returning.
Jimbo
I got a big discount for returning.
When I( talked with them a few weeks ago, they called me.
They offered me the Choice package (I had the Ultimate) (I also wasn't in from of my computer , so I couldn't check things out)
I figured if they could beat $80, I'd listen ... her best offer was $120, PASS...

The package I HAD with Sat was costing me $140 ... again HARD PASS.
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When I( talked with them a few weeks ago, they called me.
They offered me the Choice package (I had the Ultimate) (I also wasn't in from of my computer , so I couldn't check things out)
I figured if they could beat $80, I'd listen ... her best offer was $120, PASS...

The package I HAD with Sat was costing me $140 ... again HARD PASS.
they offered me the new customer deals and a 300.00 prepaid visa to leave DISH along there were going to waive the 49.00 activation fee :), the deal breaker was id'e be stuck with an HR-54 and not an HS-17. and there's no more wired gemini's for new subs or that's what i was told. and billing and tech support is still in the ATT eco system
navychop
Leaving Hopper Land for buggy whips?
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Jimbo
they offered me the new customer deals and a 300.00 prepaid visa to leave DISH along there were going to waive the 49.00 activation fee :), the deal breaker was id'e be stuck with an HR-54 and not an HS-17. and there's no more wired gemini's for new subs or that's what i was told. and billing and tech support is still in the ATT eco system
Personally, IF I ever went back with Sat, I would definitely take the HR54 ... but each set up is different from house to house, what works for you ... in reality, I would probably go streaming instead, as my needs have changed, I no longer need a portable recvr to use while camping.
Don in CT
NESN and spectrum sportsnet is i don't know about the others
I doubt NESN is doing great with the Sox in the tank.
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Bruce
Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

New numbers are out-

DIRECTV was the third-largest U.S. traditional multichannel video programming distributor (MVPD) with about 8.0 million subscribers at the end of 2Q2026

Still an average of 200,000 lost per quarter ( for the last four quarters), less than Dish/Sling, which lost 241,000 in the second quarter, 366,000 in the first quarter.

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Leaving Hopper Land for buggy whips?
no the hopper makes me stick along with customer service with dish has been much better than DTV wich there customer service completely sucks..
J
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I've had a H3 receiver for years but just recently began watching and recording 4k content. I'm consistently having the display revert to the upper left quarter of the screen after fast forwarding or pausing the playback of 4k recordings.

Some research I've done blames it on the Hopper as not having the processing power to quickly shift between the FF or pause playback formats and it leaves the playback device in a mode thinking that it's no longer receiving a 4k stream. So it displays the 1/4 image.

I've found that I can quickly recover back to a full screen 4k display by using the remote sequence Pause / Info / Resume.

I've tested this on two different monitors, but they're both LGs, so maybe it's the TVs, and not the Hopper? Is this a known problem? Anyone else experience this?
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navychop
I had similar problems when I had an H3. Not sure what triggered it. I don't think it was for 4K though, as I don't follow sports and what else has Dish put on in "4K?"

Sony UHD TV and Sony UHD player (no 1/4 there).

I think I was cycling power to work around it.
S
might be a bad hopper. no issues here with my hopper with the 4k. you might want to swap it and see if that helps.
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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osu1991
Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs. 😡
dishstaller
I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years
That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.
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harshness
not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage.
Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?
dishstaller
Other than fire, what other kinds of damage do you guys get down there?
Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.
Jimbo
Not much else. Fire is the only thing I really worry about. I honestly didn't know I could remove wind coverage until someone told that they had....dropped their annual rate from $6,500 to $1,800. I'm currently paying $5,160.
Does the Wind portion cover Hurricanes ?
dishstaller
Does the Wind portion cover Hurricanes ?
Yes. I covers ANYTHING wind related. If the wind blows down a tree on my roof...that is wind related.
That is why I want to take out a few trees first before I drop it.

I'm not worried about my roof. House was very solidly built and has hurricane straps. I put the metal roof on myself with the help of a friend and I recently replaced all of the outer screws with #12 2 in screws which I also dipped the tip in silicone before driving them in. Any other damage I'll fix myself like I did after Michael gave us a visit in 2018.
dishdude
The other thing you can look at are deductibles. I bumped my homeowners up to $10k and it dropped my premium in half - I'm not filing a claim unless the damage is catastrophic.
Jimbo
Yes. I covers ANYTHING wind related. If the wind blows down a tree on my roof...that is wind related.
That is why I want to take out a few trees first before I drop it.

I'm not worried about my roof. House was very solidly built and has hurricane straps. I put the metal roof on myself with the help of a friend and I recently replaced all of the outer screws with #12 2 in screws which I also dipped the tip in silicone before driving them in. Any other damage I'll fix myself like I did after Michael gave us a visit in 2018.
So, the Roof will stay, hopefully the rest of the house stays as well ... if the Hurricane decides to take the house and move it down the street, well at least the roof will go with it !
meStevo
The other thing you can look at are deductibles. I bumped my homeowners up to $10k and it dropped my premium in half - I'm not filing a claim unless the damage is catastrophic.

Yeah, I made our homeowners insurance deductible tied to a percentage of value or something - basically will only use it if the place burns down.
dishstaller
So, the Roof will stay, hopefully the rest of the house stays as well ... if the Hurricane decides to take the house and move it down the street, well at least the roof will go with it !
Why be such a smartbutt.
We went through a cat 5 hurricane.....the foundation is sound. Trees hitting the house are the only thing I am worried about when it comes to wind related damage.
IF you had actually been through multiple hurricanes like I have, you would know that most of the damage, unless you were stupid enough to build along the coast.....something ALL of our ancestors knew better than to do, is roof related. In a lot of cases the roof gives way and then the house suffers water damage due to the heavy rain.
S
Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs. 😡
have you even been abroad. talk about the cost of health care the whole cost of living in merica is a scam. were taxed to death so bad everyone's a slave to the govt. explore the cost of living in other countries it might blow your mind!!!
ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
elon and charlie will have a sat phone network.. i just have a gut feeliing
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Funk #49 - James Gang
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Back On The Chain Gang - The Pretenders
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My City Was Gone - The Pretenders
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Where Have You GONE-Alan Jackson
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
Almighty1
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
The Roku costs $$$, Hopper Plus is free. That may not be the only costs as it depends if the TV in question still has available HDMI ports and if not, it will require a HDMI switch and HDMI cable which adds more to the cost.

I have a LG 3D OLED Smart TV and I still need either of them because it does not have Android TV built in. Add a Hopper Plus and see if you actually have issues or not as until you actually tried it, it means nothing.
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If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.
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If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.
Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:
    • TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication
    • TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication
    • TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync
    • UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data
    • UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams
    • UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery
Critical Network & Security Considerations
    • UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.
    Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.

    The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.


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Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:
    • TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication
    • TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication
    • TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync
    • UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data
    • UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams
    • UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery
Critical Network & Security Considerations
    • UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.
    • Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.
This was for port settings for the switch, not the router.

Originally was recommended to use EDGE vs. Infrastructure, but had to change that back to Infrastructure.

Had to leave STP (Spanning tree protocol) ON, but disable BPDU guard, and also had to disable Non-STP loop protection.

The previous settings were flagging normal dish system packets as a data loop, and fully blocked that port on the UniFI Pro Max 16 POE switch.

These were specific to my managed switch, and may not apply to the OP's issue.
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This was for port settings for the switch, not the router.

Originally was recommended to use EDGE vs. Infrastructure, but had to change that back to Infrastructure.

Had to leave STP (Spanning tree protocol) ON, but disable BPDU guard, and also had to disable Non-STP loop protection.

The previous settings were flagging normal dish system packets as a data loop, and fully blocked that port on the UniFI Pro Max 16 POE switch.

These were specific to my managed switch, and may not apply to the OP's issue.
Yes, a switch unlike what the consumer calls a router does not use NAT (Network Address Translation. There could be other settings in the router itself that may have a effect as well. A router does contain a Layer 2/Layer 3 switch as well. A Managed switch does contain a Layer 2/Layer 3 router as well, just not the NAT type of router.

I have both HP/Aruba and Cisco Managed 1GBit and 10Gbit switches and never had any of the issues mentioned as my modem goes into the switch first while the router(s) all are connected to the switches. As for the OP, until we know his configuration and whether it ever worked with the Hopper Plus or without the Hopper Plus and just the Hopper 3 only, it would be hard to know where the issue lies since it could be a issue with the provider, bandwidth or the network hardware configuration among other things.
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After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
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arlo
Can't really help with an exact set of suggestions. I can say that if you have a set budget. And $600 these days wont get you much. One thing I can say is check out Dell Refurbished.
I've suggested and even configured, ordered a few for friends who were a bit iffy in deciding what they needed and wanted.
Refurbished doesn't mean that they came back defective and were repaired. Companies and organizations who order quantities of the same computers often cancel or modify their requirements.
Dell builds usually on demand. Their direct refurbished line will be brand new, unused. Perhaps not exactly the "today" specifications of the latest-greatest. And you can get a nice pc for quite a bit less with full warranty.
Just a suggestion.
"I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus".

As far as Asus, HP goes. And others you may consider. I'd think $600 (new) would get you a laptop. A quality, long lasting one? Not so sure. Now. If you could get a $1000 lappy for $600. Good deal, don't you think?
Surf the web doesn't need a killer Nvidia graphics chip. Nor a pinnacle, top of the line Intel, AMD processor.
12-16 gigs of memory will get you by just fine.
I'm personally an Asus fan. Brands aside. The one thing is the batteries. We discussed that here someplace else.
I repair these critters. Batteries. Cheap laptops have cheap batteries. Asus suggests that you don't keep the charger plugged in all of the time to make them last. Like you see on phones where 85% vs full charge is suggested to preserve battery life.
Foxbat
GB is the new MB (remember when Windows used to be happy with 8 MB of RAM?)

I had great experiences with Dell's Refurbished systems in the past. I ended up getting Business desktops instead of the Home PCs since they didn't come loaded with bloatware and the one Desktop I got for Mrs. Foxbat even had a license for MS Office Professional included.
arlo
Can't really help with an exact set of suggestions. I can say that if you have a set budget. And $600 these days wont get you much. One thing I can say is check out Dell Refurbished.
I've suggested and even configured, ordered a few for friends who were a bit iffy in deciding what they needed and wanted.
Refurbished doesn't mean that they came back defective and were repaired. Companies and organizations who order quantities of the same computers often cancel or modify their requirements.
Dell builds usually on demand. Their direct refurbished line will be brand new, unused. Perhaps not exactly the "today" specifications of the latest-greatest. And you can get a nice pc for quite a bit less with full warranty.
Just a suggestion.
"I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus".

As far as Asus, HP goes. And others you may consider. I'd think $600 (new) would get you a laptop. A quality, long lasting one? Not so sure. Now. If you could get a $1000 lappy for $600. Good deal, don't you think?
Surf the web doesn't need a killer Nvidia graphics chip. Nor a pinnacle, top of the line Intel, AMD processor.
12-16 gigs of memory will get you by just fine.
I'm personally an Asus fan. Brands aside. The one thing is the batteries. We discussed that here someplace else.
I repair these critters. Batteries. Cheap laptops have cheap batteries. Asus suggests that you don't keep the charger plugged in all of the time to make them last. Like you see on phones where 85% vs full charge is suggested to preserve battery life.
Just an edit. I did look on Dell's refurb site. To me I didn't really see anything approaching the six-hundred dollar range that I'd even consider owning. That's me though. Marginally in the $700 range.
Upwards of $1000, sure. Me? I'd save up a little more. I think their warranty is 100 days. Not that you'll need it. Square Trade is a viable option too.
The other guys replies after my first post here are viable. All I can say is that my friends and folks who chose refurbished over new have been entirely happy.

Just beware of cheap. It might just bite you. We do have tariffs now since when you bought your lappy 8 years ago.

Harshness' comment of on-cpu gpu. Intel Integrated Graphics is usually accompanied with and Nvidia gpu also.
Low power drain, good graphics and when needed, the Nvidia kicks in.


2 in 1 goes along with touch screen. Fold the display over and use it as a tablet. They go hand in hand. The keyboard shuts off. Normally open, the touch screen works as is should. I never use the touch screen when opened normally on mine. Kind of clumsy. In tablet configuration, does as it should.
harshness
In a world where Chromebooks are retailing for upwards of $600, that probably isn't enough for a self-respecting Windows laptop.

Come to think of it, it is barely enough for a reasonable mini PC with a monitor, keyboard, and mouse these days.

If a laptop is a mandate, you're looking in the used market, and that's a complete crap shoot unless you can get a factory refurb with a >90-day warranty.
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After checking on new laptops and not liking the prices I checked to see when I replaced the battery in mine. It was about five years ago. I also installed a bigger 1TB SSD drive a few years ago. It already has 12GB of RAM which was more than most new laptops I looked at. I plan on replacing the battery to see what happens. The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 5570. Is there anything else I need to replace?
primestar31
After checking on new laptops and not liking the prices I checked to see when I replaced the battery in mine. It was about five years ago. I also installed a bigger 1TB SSD drive a few years ago. It already has 12GB of RAM which was more than most new laptops I looked at. I plan on replacing the battery to see what happens. The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 5570. Is there anything else I need to replace?
Maybe replace the CMOS battery? Power on while taping the F2 key to get into the Setup screen, then take photos of all your cmos settings before replacement, so you can easily restore them after replacement.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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That kind of crap annoys me to no end.
That is one reason I haven't switched to h3and the same wireless joey 4
Hope you get it resolved.
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KAB
Just so you know, my WJ4 (with no Hopper+) shows all the logos. I can't think of why yours isn't. I'll do some digging in the settings.
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Scott Greczkowski
They "should" appear after a few days. If not reboot the hopper and joey. Sometimes it needs a kick.
Almighty1
There are some channels that would not show the logos but the ones you listed should all have logos as I have a Hopper 3 + Hopper Plus here. You might try forcing a Guide Update first before doing what Scott mentioned.
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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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Congratulations to the youngest Formula 1 World Champion, 20-year old Kimi Antonelli! The podium at the Mexican Grand Prix featured three World Champions with 4-time World Champion Max Verstappen, 7-time World Champion Lewis Hamilton, and newly-crowned World Champion Kimi Antonelli. A dozen World Championships represented!
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