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Our Congress Critters have quietly done away with channels 31-51. It's all over but the signing. Take a few years. Here's the white paper.

This will be digested quickly, and I can see the beast back at the door shortly for more. I consider this to be the unquestionable beginning of the end for OTA. Not a good time to invest in an OTA antenna.
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wow. So, the spectrum will be sold to AT&T and Verizon. Majority of the country uses these two providers. We are basically funneling our tax savings back through our wireless providers to the government. Once it's all paid for, AT&T and Verizon will reap the profits/benefits from selling off the spectrum. Genious politicians we have. Up next, National Parks. Who needs 'em. We can sell them to Kaufman/Broad and they can build affordable housing in Yosemite.
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I'm just now reading the NY times link, and assembling this in my mind. It's multi-sided. As a broadcaster (radio, not TV) I would very much resent my bandwidth being sold, and/or being forced to move. Even though digital TV sets can re-map, chances are that NOT all solid state equipment used to bring that signal to our homes (broadcasters equipment) is frequency agile. Unless the government pays broadcasters for reasonable expenses in moving frequencies and adjusting or replacing equipment to remain "on air", a big problem has been created. (Referencing the article saying it could move broadcasters for bigger "chunks" of available bandwidth )

Quote: "roughly $1.75 billion will be available for the F.C.C. to compensate television stations that volunteer to give up their spot on the spectrum. The F.C.C., with some restrictions, can also move some stations around on the broadcast spectrum, allowing it to put together packages of contiguous bands of spectrum" (Unquote)

This kind of action sets horrible precedents, or supports the continuation of them. We're talking about a government and FCC that together have partnered to order all broadcasters an ultimatum: that ALL OF US spend our own money to update the Emergency Alert System at THOUSANDS of dollars per broadcaster by June, yet they can't decide on standardizing the new CAP protocols to make it all happen. (yet, they bought converter boxes for people on welfare because apparently is a "right" to watch TV in the United States....grrrrr)

If they're not paying us and all broadcasters for our out of pocket expenses to comply with the new EAS systems, chances are they'll leave many of the smaller market TV broadcasters in any "digital bandwidth move and auction" hurting financially or dying after yet another unfunded government mandate.

As a viewer, however, I can see an advantage in making some channels of local markets more receivable by being moved into blocks of frequencies that carry distance better than they do now. Granted, neighboring markets can't share the exact same frequencies, but..there are some wonderful channels mapped to "show" a lower former channel location which are now difficult to receive given their higher actual frequencies! Wouldn't it be nice if this MUST happen to see (more) careful thought go in to the best available coverage by frequency per area per TV broadcaster?

HOWEVER....I don't want this done on the financial backs of the broadcasters who either bear the brunt of yet another unfunded mandate, or just can't afford to operate anyore, and turn in their licenses. Seems the public loses no matter what....less broadcasters in the long run and less available bandwidth "(public airwaves)" while lawmakers take REAL money from "virtual" space.

Looks like something to follow VERY closely and to understand fully, which at this point, I may not....but...I'll be watching!!!!

Since I'm new to this topic, my facts may not be straight, but...if what "appears" to be true is, my opinion stands.
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lies and more lies

I've seen all these lies before .....||"Public safety departments pressed to include in this bill a dedicated nationwide network, since fire and police departments in New York found that their radio systems couldn't talk to each other during the attacks on the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. The 9/11 Commission endorsed such a project in 2004, and emergency units continued to have the same problems after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the BP oil spill in 2010." ||...... I call BS !! .................................... With the state of radio tech (unjam-able frequency hopping spread spectrum , self healing mesh networks ect.) If public safety workers have troubles talking to each other it's not for lack of frequencies but due to bureaucracy and pssst poor planing. Even supposing they need more bandwidth they should have allocated VHF low channels like 2, and/or 5 to local gov/pub. safety during the initial frequency grabs. Those frequencies are not as valuable to cellphone carriers (to large of an antenna) but CB is twice as large as VHF low and there are 40 channels in less than 2 MHz, one tv channel is 6 MHz. It's about the money not your safety.
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I think the only careful thought that they will put into this is how much more $ can they get for selling off frequencies that were used by the public for free services, to subscription services. regarding ||(yet, they bought converter boxes for people on welfare because apparently is a "right" to watch TV in the United States....grrrrr) Just FYI the government voucher for digital TV converter boxes. A. Up to $40 didn't get anyone a free box they all cost more than $40 or were never available. B. Welfare had nothing what so ever to do with the program Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both qualified for the program. C. The government profited from the sale of a public resource as in we the people, we own the RF spectrum and allow the government to regulate it for the greatest good of the people. They passed legislation that cut a large portion of that pubic from viewing local TV even on reasonably new equipment Offering to help the poor was the only way the politicians ect. could force this digital transition on us without a public outrage and uprising. They made our equipment obsolete so they could sell off something that belongs to us. I think the boxes should have been provided free and post paid to our door three to a household ! And talk about hardship on the broadcasters what about loosing half or more of your audience over night!
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And while I'm at it can anyone explain to me how your home computer is OK with cable/DSL running at ~ 5-10 Mbps but your phone needs 4G which is 100 Mbps. So it can get texts 17 seconds faster? I thought the whole idea of text msg. was to leave a message for someone who can't presently answer their phone, but it's become a way to talk to nobody and everybody by typing with your thumbs. Seems people don't even want to talk to each other let alone "video chat". So am I missing something? If this is about broadband to the country (people using their smart phone to supply home rural internet) then they should split off part of the frequencies we've already given them into a wisp for stationary home service and use directional outdoor and sector antennas with polarization diversity to make the most of those frequencies before we give up any more. In Italy scientists have found a technique to transmit and demux (?) two separate "channels " occupying the same frequency and say they can use a large number of these separate "channels " all on the same frequency . The "channels" would all have different "orbital angular momentum" ............ iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/14/3/033001/article
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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The Long Run - The Eagles
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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I could be wrong but the only RSN we dont have is NBC SN Philadelphia .
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Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
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Rest In Peace
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R.I.P., Jean-Luc.