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Need opinions/suggestions regarding my situation!

Hi all, newbie here. I need an opinion regarding my situation. This post may be long, so sorry in advanced!

I currently have Dish Network. We have 5 TVS (all HD--but only utilizing 4), a 722k, 211k, and 211. I'm moving in the beginning of May and am wondering whether or not I even want to keep Dish. Dish has been good overall, but I am not very fond of their customer service. A few months into the service, we had an issue with our UHF remote and antenna for TV 2. A remote replacement did not fix the issue, so a technician was sent out. He ended up fixing the issue, and upgraded our 211k to a 622. He convinced my dad (who does not speak very good English) that upgrading would result in being able to use our 5th TV, and would also give us a 2nd DVR. He failed to mention that upgrading would extend our contract and that we would incur extra monthly fees. Once I got home and learned that we were upgraded, I immediately got online and chatted with Dish. I knew the upgrade wasn't completely "free". The CSR confirmed that our contract was indeed extended and that we would have to pay for the additional tuner and DVR. After going back and forth and speaking to several people, they finally told me to return the DVR and that they would revert all changes on our account. They sent us a 211 and we returned the 622. Fast forward to today--I chatted with Dish because I wanted to learn more about the Dish Mover Program, the Hopper/Joey, and also wanted to know exactly when our contract will end. Sure enough, that upgrade (which was supposed to be undone) came back to haunt me. Dish did not revert that contract extension. Our contract is supposed to end in Aug of this year, but they were still telling me Apr 2013. I was told sorry, nothing can be done. Once we upgraded, it automatically extended the contract another 2 years. Again, after speaking to several people and demanding to speak to higher-ups, I finally got that issue resolved (hopefully they noted my account this time). Our contract ends on 8/28/12. Now the question is, should I stay with Dish? If I do, I would like to upgrade to the Hopper/Joey system. These are my options:
  • Stay with Dish, use Dish Mover Program to have satellite and receivers installed in new place, and upgrade to Hopper & 3 Joeys. I was quoted $100 for the equipment and $99 for installation. I'm hoping I can get that installation fee waived. If I were to stay with what we have and not upgrade, installation in the new home would be free anyway, right? Why wouldn't they be able to install the Hopper system for free? The new home is also pre-wired for cable and satellite, so installation should be a breeze.
  • Cancel Dish, pay early termination fee, and open new account under my name. Equipment would be free if I subscribe to America's top 200 (don't really need that many channels) and installation would be free. I would also be able to take advantage of new customer pricing/promos.
  • Drop Dish, pay early termination fee, and go with DirecTV.

Need some opinions/suggestions, please! Thank you :D
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what are your recording habits?
do you record mainly the big 4 networks? can you get them in hd? (will ptat work for you?)

2 hoppers would be your minimum requirement with 3 possible viewers
that would leave a minimum of 2 tuners to record sat and 1 for ptat.

if this is enough, then stay with dish

if not then look into other options

or compare the 2 technologies/channel options and see what fits your viewing habits
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mdram said:
what are your recording habits?
do you record mainly the big 4 networks? can you get them in hd? (will ptat work for you?)

2 hoppers would be your minimum requirement with 3 possible viewers
that would leave a minimum of 2 tuners to record sat and 1 for ptat.
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We don't record a ton. After reading a bunch of threads, I think our recording is minimal compared to the majority of the people on here. I probably have no more than 3 or 4 timers set right now on my 722. I'd say about half are from the big 4 networks.

I am trying to understand the system more, but it's a bit confusing. Dish CSRs also don't help very much as they just copy and paste a script when I chat with them online. If I go the 1 hopper/3 joey route, what does that mean for us during prime time, if PTAT is activated? 2 can watch anything, 1 must watch a recorded show? What if PTAT is switched off? All 3 of us can watch whatever we choose, correct?
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We don't record a ton. After reading a bunch of threads, I think our recording is minimal compared to the majority of the people on here. I probably have no more than 3 or 4 timers set right now on my 722. I'd say about half are from the big 4 networks.

I am trying to understand the system more, but it's a bit confusing. Dish CSRs also don't help very much as they just copy and paste a script when I chat with them online. If I go the 1 hopper/3 joey route, what does that mean for us during prime time, if PTAT is activated? 2 can watch anything, 1 must watch a recorded show? What if PTAT is switched off? All 3 of us can watch whatever we choose, correct?
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i dont have it, but my understanding is
each joey will use a tuner from the hopper
if all 3 are watching something live, only what is being watched can be recorded
this should allow the ptat to record as normal if one of watchers is watching a network show

ptat only works if you get hd locals from dish

if there is any chance of all 3 people watching at one time i would get 2 hoppers to avoid any conflict
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With PTAT activated, 2 could watch something other than that live. The other one could watch one of the channels being recorded with PTAT or 'join' with one of the other 2 channels watching live, or watch a recorded event.

With PTAT not used, then all 3 could be watching what they want live, or watch a recorded event.
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mdram said:
if there is any chance of all 3 people watching at one time i would get 2 hoppers to avoid any conflict
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lparsons21 said:
With PTAT not used, then all 3 could be watching what they want live, or watch a recorded event.
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We are almost always watching on 3 separate TVs, but I just think 2 hoppers is a bit much to avoid those few rare occasions where one of us doesn't have the ability to watch what we want. I don't think the cost of the extra hopper up front and the monthly charge is worth it. Maybe shutting off PTAT for us is the way to go...I'll keep doing research. Thanks for the suggestions!
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We are almost always watching on 3 separate TVs, but I just think 2 hoppers is a bit much to avoid those few rare occasions where one of us doesn't have the ability to watch what we want. I don't think the cost of the extra hopper up front and the monthly charge is worth it. Maybe shutting off PTAT for us is the way to go...I'll keep doing research. Thanks for the suggestions!
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The monthly charge would be the same whether it is a Hopper or Joey, $7. If all three TV's are in use at once watching live programming, you would have 0 tuners available to record.
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Voyager6 said:
The monthly charge would be the same whether it is a Hopper or Joey, $7. If all three TV's are in use at once watching live programming, you would have 0 tuners available to record.
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Thanks for correcting me. Maybe I will go the 2H/2J route so I don't end up regretting it in the future.
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Thanks for correcting me. Maybe I will go the 2H/2J route so I don't end up regretting it in the future.
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I just think that three tuners with three TV's is just not enough. There will be times that you want to be watching TV and recording. Two Hoppers gives you that flexibility and the extra cost is not much. When the Hoppers are integrated, which has been promised to be soon, all six tuners on both Hoppers will be available to all TV's.
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cpdretired
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Almighty1
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This is what I see when it comes to offers on My Account on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com:

AMC+ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
AMC+ Free for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
AMC+ 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Cine y Entretenimie 50% off for 3 months

DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

DISH Movie Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

DOGTV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Gallery First Month Free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Heartland Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Mexico y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

MGM+ $0.00/Month not saying how long (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Multi-Sport Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Netflix Standard with Ads, $7.99/month credit toward Netflix Standard with Ads ($.99) month with 24 month DISH commitment
(Only on My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Outdoor Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 50% off for three months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 2 months free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Playboy TV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Republica Dominicana 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

STARZ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
STARZ $1.99/month for 2 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Sudamerica y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

UP Faith & Family 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
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bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month
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You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
www.apple.com

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
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Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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slow_poke_pete said:
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
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No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
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Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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This Week in Space 232

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Edq2eavsQ


Direct YouTube Link - This Week in Space 232
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Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oRVxjGm0qtE


Direct YouTube Link - Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event
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Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyF_RH1m0mc


Direct YouTube Link - Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!
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The Apple HomeView

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0k5iT-OlpdE


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Last reply · posted in TV Shows

Frisco King - Paramount Plus


View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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dishstaller
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Howard Simmons said:
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BIdMzUBHvjw?feature=share
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Tony as the director.🙄
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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.🙄
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk

Trailer for new Jim Caviezel movie Ghost Soldier

Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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