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Beachbum

Last reply Apr 2, 2005 · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Help wiring for satellite!

Well, im new to satellite TV. I currently have all cable, cable TV and high speed internet. I just recently bought an FTA setup to fool around with which brought me to this forum

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I live on an island in northwest Florida which of course was battered by hurricane Ivan, screwed up the house etc.... Yes, Its 6 months later and no there is no progress down here, but there is some normalcy.
Our cable TV line runs across the street from north to south, so far this month the line has been snapped TWICE by who knows what. I believe the snapping of our cable line is intentionally since it only occurs late at night and during the day the debris hauling trucks don't even come close.

I'll live with it for now, but if this happens one more time im giving up! I'll be forced to switch to satellite and then get DSL. Currently the house is gutted and I just recently finished wiring it, obviously I want to make sure its future proof before the drywall goes up!

So far I have 3 cables going into a structured wiring panel: 1 for cable TV, 2 for satellite? Now this 2 wire concept dumbfounds me. And at the wire panel there is one coax that goes to each room which I was planning on attaching an amplified splitter to.

I know with the dual or even triple LNB's there are more than one wires involved in that but those wires are hooked up to a multiswitch and it all boils down to ONE coax which attaches to the receiver? I swear I have seen some receivers that required 2 coax cables from the dish?

I'm very confused.
I included a basic drawing:

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Beachbum

Mar 28, 2005

Yeah, Pensacola Beach. Thats also a plus, it took like 4 weeks to get our cable line to get reattached after the hurricane (in pensacola, not the beach). And phone service was always on! I'm seriously considering it now.

PILMAN

Mar 28, 2005

yes phone service never went out. Our cable has had TONS Of problems recently though. It's not just us, everyone on our block is experiencing outages almost everyday about 3 times a day, there tv's will lose signal and their internet will go down, my internet goes down constantly. Yeah cable sure is more reliable than satellite [sarcasm], maybe in the rest of the world but in this area hell no.

Went to my aunts house and there was this funny directv commercial (she has cable) and this kid screams "DAD THE CABLES OUT AGAIN!" and the dad says "well it's time to get directv". funny stuff.

Foxbat

Apr 2, 2005

Beachbum, if the walls are still exposed and you want to truely future-proof your home, get some 3/4", 1", & 2" interduct and run that to any location that you might want to put a TV or satellite (or Internet connection, for that matter). SmartHome sells this stuff, but there may be cheaper sources. It cuts with a hacksaw and can be glued with PVC cement to attach threaded nipples for termination in a low-voltage box. Also, it has pull tape run thoughout the interduct, so dragging two, three, or more RG6 cables is no sweat.

That way, if DBS goes to fiber optic cabling in the future, or your cable co. gets their act together and you want to hook up every room, you're set.

Mike500

Apr 2, 2005

I've used and installed all sorts of panels and conduits. None of them seem to satisfy my needs. I no longer spend money on them.

I prefer the open work architecture method. If I was building a house, I would, as I have with my own house took and catalogued many pictures of the walls with the wiring plumbing, and structure before the insulation went in.

A standard wall cavity has a cross section of 3.5x14.5 inches if built on 16 inch stud centers and 3.5x22.5 inches if built on 24 inch center between studs. That is a lot more room for running cables. Basically, I'd drill 1.25 inch holes right next to the vertical studs centered on the top and bottom plate 2x4's. 1.25 inch holes are used, because they meet NEC 2002 requirements for 1.25" spacing from outside or inside walls for regular house wiring. For mounting the wall plates, I use the Carlon orange old work 2x4' mounting frames. In new work, I use the these old work frames, but use two angled drywall screws to mount it to the stud, with the ennded 1/2" spacing out for the drywall. This way, I can later remove the drame without damaging the sheet rock and repalce it in the same hole with the built in clamp ears. Adding more plates is simple. You just go to the side of the stud and cut a 1.5 inch hole with a hole saw and use dry wall screw shields to mount the plates to the wall. You can also use the orange Carlon old work frames. The cables are not stapled to the walls, but anchored in the attic with cable clamps into the wood outside of the wall. Using this open work, more cables can be pulled in with the old cables at any time. Old unused cables and be discarded and removed. A piece of galvanized flashing with one edge folded over to avoid cutting the wires can be screwed over the holes with 1/4" hex x 3/4" long sheet metal screws. They cab be removed with a nut driver to access the holes, yet steel would provide the necessary shielding for fire resistance required by code.

Cable types and number of cables requirement change over time. This allows for easy future upgrades.

Beachbum

Apr 2, 2005

Foxbat said:
Beachbum, if the walls are still exposed and you want to truely future-proof your home, get some 3/4", 1", & 2" interduct and run that to any location that you might want to put a TV or satellite (or Internet connection, for that matter). SmartHome sells this stuff, but there may be cheaper sources. It cuts with a hacksaw and can be glued with PVC cement to attach threaded nipples for termination in a low-voltage box. Also, it has pull tape run thoughout the interduct, so dragging two, three, or more RG6 cables is no sweat.

That way, if DBS goes to fiber optic cabling in the future, or your cable co. gets their act together and you want to hook up every room, you're set.

I already did that! Along with a box and everything....
I'm trying not to worry about anything right now, our hurricane house isnt so hurricane proof anymore the blowout walls are bolted to the ground now (why, I dont now). So bassically if another hurricane comes, our house will be....GONE. And if a hurricane doesnt come, we are going to sell in 2-3 years, and once its sold, there is a good chance that who ever buys it will just bulldoze it :no

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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Bruce

Yesterday at 11:22 AM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

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Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/echostar-loses-182k-wireless-customers-q3

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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:54 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

dish has new sats dtv does not

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renjy651

Today at 6:37 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not

Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

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Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

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