Social Feed

D
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
  • From what I understand, there's no way to be in one room, recording something and watching something at the same time, in the same room, without having to do some tweaking beforehand, correct?
  • I think I read something where TV1 can be watching something, and TV2 can be recording something. These are just based off of the tuners, correct? So if I'm in my room, where TV1 will be, then I set it to record on TV2, the TV downstairs, and I can watch live TV up here.
  • Is it possible to control recordings from the downstairs TV if the unit is upstairs? My sister and I live together. It would be easy if she could select what she wants recorded herself, instead of telling me to set up a recording for something all the time.

Thanks guys.
12 Replies · 2456 views
S
522 Questions

We have had our 522 a few weeks, we got it through the upgrade I heard about here (thanks everyone).

Anyway with no effort in dual mode you can:
-watch something live on one TV while something else is recording.
-at the same time you can watch something recorded on a 2nd TV

you can watch 2 different things live on 2 TVs at the same time

you can watch 2 different recorded shows on 2 TVs while up to 2 shows are recording at the same time.

you can watch the same recorded show on 2 TVs at the same time without being "in sync"

What you can't do is be in a room where where something is recording and watch something else live without being in single mode. I understand that there is a receiver the 9** which with only 2 receivers will allow you to watch something live and record something at the same time on each of 2 TVs.

Hopefully that one will be offered next year as customer upgrade.

:)
D
Ok, so going through single mode, you can be watching something and recording something at the same time. That's one of the main things I was looking at. Thanks guys.
S
don't need to be in single mode

You don't have to be in single mode to watch something live while something else is recording. If you set your preferences correctly you can tell it which receiver to use for which recordings.

In our case we watch most of our TV in one room, so I set the receiver associated with the TV in other the room (call it TV2) to do most of the recording. This means that from TV 1, while the other receiver is busy recording I can watch either something live or something recorded. The only drawback is that if I happen to be in the other room (the room with TV2) and I wanted to watch something else live while TV2 receiver was recording I would have to get up and go into the other room where the actual receiver was to either watch in there or put the receiver into single mode and then go back into the other room and watch that way.
jpezz
phat_bastard said:
You've got to be kidding. I guess that's the difference between spending a fat chunk at a university vs. a two year jr. college. ;)
Nah! The difference between being young and being at the point where the brain cells are leaking.

Here's my best stab at a clear, simple explanation.

The 522 has two distinct sattelite tuners, two distinct video outputs, and two distinct user modes. Each sat tuner is capable of tuning one channel and only one channel, which can also be recorded to the hard drive using the DVR functions. As long as you remember these fundamental limitations you should be able to understand how the thing works.
I got that much myself. Thanks. I have also cross-connected thins so I can watch TV2 output on TV1.

When in single user mode, the two sat tuners can be switched between by pressing the 'swap' button on the remote, and picture in picture functions are available. In single mode, both video outputs (TV1 and TV2) display the same video. In this mode, the user can record a program while watching another live program, and the user can switch between the programs or monitor both using PIP. I believe the UHF remote controls the tuner in single mode the same way as the normal IR remote does, but I may be wrong on this point.
Ok
When in dual user mode, the two sat tuners are dedicated to their relevant video outputs, as are the remotes to controlling their dedicated tuners. That means that each output can watch and / or record the output of of it's dedicated sat tuner. TV1's remote controls TV1's output exclusively, and TV2 controls TV2 likewise. TV2's remote communicates with the receiver via UHF enabling it to be used at greater distances than a normal IR remote without having line of sight to the reciever. This makes TV2 the ideal choice for use in a room other than where the DVR is physically located. For the sake of simplicity let's call TV1's output 'user 1', and TV2 'user 2'.
That I all understand as I have had 322s.
When in this mode, if recordings are scheduled by either user that conflict with another recording (i.e. recording two different shows at once), the DVR will attempt to record the program on the other tuner. In effect, this can cause user 1's recording habits to impact user 2, since user 2 will be forced to watch whatever user 1 scheduled for recording, or they can cancel the recording manually. The opposite applies as well (user 2 recordings could impact user 1). There is a mechanism to provide priorities for conflict resolution, but for the sake of simplicity there's little use going into this.
Aha! That is something I didn't know.
To summarize, in dual user mode when both sat tuners are being used to record two different programs, you have the option of watching what is being recorded on your dedicated sat tuner or you can watch another pre-recorded program from the hard drive, but you cannot watch another distinct sat channel (that would require another [set of] sat tuner).

That one I knew.
I also believe you can watch a recording that is in the proces of being recorded by the other tuner, but I'm not 100% sure on this point either. In a nutshell, with dual user mode you have two separate receivers that share the DVR functions. In certain social situations this could be the best of both worlds, and in other situations it could be a nightmare.
I've only used the dual mode.
Now I doubt that cleared anything up for anyone, and I probably spread misinformation in the process, but I digress. Ultimately the best way to understand how the thing works is to use it for a couple weeks. If at the end of those two weeks you don't both love and hate it then you probably aren't utilizing all it's capabilities, and you should read the manual from cover to cover. :D

Thanks for your help. You cleared up some things. I'll check the ability to use tuner2 from TV1 control as that's what I want to do.

The manual is confusing. I have read it. Sometimes all it takes is someone saying the same information in a different way.

JohnP
JohnL
holman said:
After reading my previous post I need to rephrase a little.

With a 522 you are never watching a "live" feed, you are always watching a recording at least about 4 seconds old. So each of the 2 tuners can record 1 thing and each of the 2 outputs can watch 1 recording (a saved one or its tuners "live" recording).

Mike

Mike,

All Dish receivers are off by about 4 seconds the difference between the DVR's and NON DVR's is at most 1/10 of a second. The 4 second delay is inherent to the delivery system as Dish first receives the signal then processes it, encodes it, and then transmits it to you a total of 46,000 miles.

John
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
19 Replies · 238 views
  • Sad
Reactions: AZ.
vazhog
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
harshness
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).
  • Like
Reactions: AZ. and osu1991
Foxbat
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
S
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
what about the welfare kings and queens :rolleyes:
osu1991
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.
  • Like
Reactions: AZ.
Bobby
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
There are no dues to be paid to be in the Pit. You just have to use the password which is clearly shown when you try to log in to it.
  • Like
Reactions: dishstaller
dishstaller
Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays.

Yes.....they do. Which is why I am very careful when at a customer's house these days....you NEVER know what is going to set someone off. Polite dialog is a thing of the past.....which is why I like my dog so much :)
dishdude
That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).

Which makes zero sense. If they are healthy and able to work but won't, they aren't using any health resources up.
  • Like
Reactions: Bobby and NYDutch
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
68683 Replies · 2681539 views
  • Like
Reactions: c-spand
harshness
Garden Party - Ricky Nelson
  • Love
Reactions: RaiderPower
gms49ers
The Garden - Rush
  • Like
Reactions: long_time_Dish
sdfntx
Safe In My Garden - The Mamas & The Papas
long_time_Dish
Mary Shut The Garden Door - Donald Fagen
  • Like
Reactions: Bobby
dishstaller
The Wind Cries Mary - Jimi Hendrix
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

4 Replies · 174 views
comfortably_numb
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
TRG
TRG
It's not even Halloween yet.
  • Haha
Reactions: Howard Simmons
Scott Greczkowski
I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
Don in CT
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
So it's a drunk father telling his in-laws to leave.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
7 Replies · 247 views
dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Scott Greczkowski
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Scott Greczkowski
Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
(((Garyd)))
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
(((Garyd)))
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I had a direct link to ]Political, thought provoking and debatable but now have to go in the main section or I get a warning on my Bitdefender
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
dishstaller
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Scott Greczkowski
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
Its an automated bot. Explained it to you in the PM.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
117 Replies · 1152 views
meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
  • Sad
Reactions: Jimbo
osu1991

GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
  • Like
Reactions: osu1991
T

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
· posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network
0 Replies · 4 views
T
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.
18 Replies · 874 views
  • Like
Reactions: tanman
navychop
Ungood.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
R
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
navychop
Tell Alexa verbally what to do.
snissen
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.
navychop
The Resurrectionists can help you with that.

For a price.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell