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I know we would all like tv without them but we also know what pays the bills.

Yes if you have a DVR you can skip commercials, you as the enduser control the situation.

I do not believe that a third party, your tv distributor for example, has the legal right to do this for you.

A kinda of example- years ago, and I mean years, a magazine published basic programs you could type and save on your apple II, or you could purchase the program on disc. A service appeared that that would do the typing for you, cheaper than the discs from the magazine. The courts held that while you could type the programs for yourself a third party could not- that the enduser had to be the agent.

But if legal, if DISH can "cut" the commercials do we really think none premium channels can really convince advertisers to buy ads if they know a great percentage of viewers will never see them?

So, I don't think its legal, and if it is, I'm afraid of the results.
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harshness
I recall similar arguments surrounding DISH's two-TV solutions and PocketDISH.

There's enough essence of sour grapes to make pretty much everyone suspicious about the underlying motivations for this argument.

Nobody cried foul when the World-Wide Web got too big and complicated for dial-up Internet The industry needs a new model and it isn't our responsibility to figure out to keep the old model going until they arrive at a solution.

The fact that the stations are making money off of us (as satellite subscribers) in addition to the ad revenues deserves a little scorn too.
J
I recall similar arguments surrounding DISH's two-TV solutions and PocketDISH.

There's enough essence of sour grapes to make pretty much everyone suspicious about the underlying motivations for this argument.

Nobody cried foul when the World-Wide Web got too big and complicated for dial-up Internet The industry needs a new model and it isn't our responsibility to figure out to keep the old model going until they arrive at a solution.

The fact that the stations are making money off of us (as satellite subscribers) in addition to the ad revenues deserves a little scorn too.

It has always been about the money,

As I understand the situation the OTA stations initially worried about the little dishes taking away their client base as far as ad penetration.SO they engaged the FCC to slow any sale of OTA signal to little dish customers. THEN they discovered they could count the sat customers who had their feed for ad client purposes. The money flowed back and all was nice again. AND they were paid for customers way outside their normal broadcast cone.

Now they fear TV users have alternative sources for tube entertainment and something approaching alla carte subscriptions is on the horizon. Also users have the capability to blank or jump their loud & irrelevant commercial messages.

EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THIS BUMPER STICKER:

The industry needs a new model and it isn't our responsibility to figure out to keep the old model going until they arrive at a solution.

Good shot, Harshness!

Joe
J
I'm all for skipping commercials. Sometimes you have to sit through ten or more commercials in a row. And that's after I have already paid D* over $100 a month just to watch those commercials. Somebody is greedy and is making a killing off from selling all of those commercials. Cut the commercials back to a more reasonable number and then I won't skip them.
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Don't forget that Dtv owns the intellectual property of replay tv. They had it working great until they basicly got sued out of bussiness for it. I still miss the automatic skip to this day it was so nice to hit play sit the remote down for the entire show.
dishcomm
It has always been about the money,

As I understand the situation the OTA stations initially worried about the little dishes taking away their client base as far as ad penetration.SO they engaged the FCC to slow any sale of OTA signal to little dish customers. THEN they discovered they could count the sat customers who had their feed for ad client purposes. The money flowed back and all was nice again. AND they were paid for customers way outside their normal broadcast cone.

Now they fear TV users have alternative sources for tube entertainment and something approaching alla carte subscriptions is on the horizon. Also users have the capability to blank or jump their loud & irrelevant commercial messages.

EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THIS BUMPER STICKER:

The industry needs a new model and it isn't our responsibility to figure out to keep the old model going until they arrive at a solution.

Good shot, Harshness!

Joe
Yep...The current television business model is antiquated. Well almost. The only aspect of tv keeping up is the money charged by program producers which is passed along to pay tv subs.
dishcomm
I'm all for skipping commercials. Sometimes you have to sit through ten or more commercials in a row. And that's after I have already paid D* over $100 a month just to watch those commercials. Somebody is greedy and is making a killing off from selling all of those commercials. Cut the commercials back to a more reasonable number and then I won't skip them.
I believe the rule is an 8 minute limit for commercial time for every 30 mins of program time. That is for regularly scheduled programming. Sporting events do not apply.. I think.
However, I am not familiar with the rules regarding cable programming.
A&E for example seems to have an endless barrage of commercials at certain times.
Gonna have to buy a stopwatch.
raoul5788
There are nine minutes of commercials in the Chelsea Lately show.
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Don't forget that Dtv owns the intellectual property of replay tv. They had it working great until they basicly got sued out of bussiness for it. I still miss the automatic skip to this day it was so nice to hit play sit the remote down for the entire show.

Man I loved my replaytv with the auto skip. Brings back memories. Wish I wouldn't have sold it. Had the lifetime sub too

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navychop
I believe the rule is an 8 minute limit for commercial time for every 30 mins of program time. That is for regularly scheduled programming. Sporting events do not apply.. I think.
However, I am not familiar with the rules regarding cable programming.
A&E for example seems to have an endless barrage of commercials at certain times.
Gonna have to buy a stopwatch.

I believe such limits were overturned or removed.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Foxbat
Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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teachsac
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
long_time_Dish
Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
dishstaller
Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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R
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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