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Grandpa J

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Last reply Jul 13, 2012 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Rant about "Issues"

Rant

I know that electric equipment may occasionally have "Issues" (a/k/a problems for us older people). While Echo Star/Dish equipment is generally very good, when "Issues" do occur too many times the response is "This is a known issue". Even the normally very helpful DIRT team will fall back on this phase, a bet sometimes with tedious work a rounds as temporary fixes. One of the current "Issues" is the software glitches with the 722 receiver.

Apple, Microsoft and other companies have "Issues" but they release their "Patches", a/k/a fixes, "Out of cycle", a/k/a quickly. Why doesn't Echo Star/Dish resolve, fix it's "Issues" quickly?

I guess after being a Dish customer for 14+ years I should be accustom to their other well used phase "Soon". But at my age "Soon" seems like a long, long time.

End of rant.

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Scott Greczkowski

Jul 13, 2012

I got to agree.

There is a definate need for DISH to have EXTERNAL BETA TESTERS. They always seemed shocked when we find bugs that they didnt find in their internal testing.

We have lots of people here willing to help!

jerryez

Jul 13, 2012

I love beta testing equipment and did so for many years, back when I had TiVo.

Tampa8

Jul 13, 2012

Scott Greczkowski said:
I got to agree.

There is a definate need for DISH to have EXTERNAL BETA TESTERS. They always seemed shocked when we find bugs that they didnt find in their internal testing.

We have lots of people here willing to help!

That's no joke, many posters here know what to look for and how to put a receiver through the paces. Some of us have said that for years. Scott, seriously call Charlie on your direct line and let him know we are willing and ready.

keckge

Jul 13, 2012

This is an awesome thread........finally, see to me my 922 is buggy but am I willing to give it up for a more stable 722k no its has an ugly UI and I have one in the living room so if I have to keep switching them out until the end of time I guess thats what I will have to do. Because I'm not willing to give up on it. But I don't want a hopper either. I can't believe they can't find these bugs its crazy. Its funny what Jerryez said, I also have the very first TIVO ever in existence commercially of course sitting on a shelf downstairs (999.00) had to have it loved it wish dish had their interface it was beautiful had four more after that model. Tivo managed to fix their bugs why can't dish? Now would I switch because of the bugs absolutely not. If dish added a $50 surcharge to my account just for having them tomorrow, I still would not switch that is how much I hate directv. And lastly we are all beta testers so why not let more of us become beta testers so that they can actually get the right responses with what bugs are there so they can work them out in the development phase. Then there technical support people would not spend near as much time on the phone with people. Its not like they would have to pay us. Most people would be willing to do it for free. Personally I love breaking shiny new things LOL.

Now I'm mad directv put an ad next to my post.

ScottChez

Jul 13, 2012

Dish needs a CE beta testing program where anyone can download the latest beta software between 11pm and 2am every Friday night. If issues they just rollback on there own doing the same download anytime after 2am

Scott Greczkowski said:
I got to agree.

There is a definate need for DISH to have EXTERNAL BETA TESTERS. They always seemed shocked when we find bugs that they didnt find in their internal testing.

We have lots of people here willing to help!

Brussam

Jul 13, 2012

Having worked for a mainframe computer company for my career, there is a serious issue with Beta testing. The people that want Beta testing the most are also those who cannot deal with problems.

Finding people who will expose themselves to problems, document and report those problems, and then take the curative actions supplied are a rare breed at the best.

Most want to be Beta testers to have availability of new stuff first, not to help find problems.

And even after Beta testing, every customer will have those unique variation of a problem, some real, some imaginary, that all the Beta testing in the world will not uncover.

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mheisen

Last reply Today at 3:43 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

Yesterday at 6:11 PM

Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Yesterday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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